X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0c1) with ESMTP id 688531 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:20:04 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.131.115; envelope-from=keltro@att.net Received: from 204.127.135.63 ([204.127.135.63]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with SMTP id <2005083122192011100ik2h9e>; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 22:19:20 +0000 Received: from [209.247.222.92] by 204.127.135.63; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 22:19:20 +0000 From: keltro@att.net (Kelly Troyer) To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: Rational for TES "O" Rings Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 22:19:20 +0000 Message-Id: <083120052219.11464.43162CE800025B9900002CC82160376223019D9B040A05@att.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Feb 14 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: a2VsdHJvQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_11464_1125526760_0" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_11464_1125526760_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ken, Just realized I did not answer your question........I do not think the TES seals will raise oil temps.........I just hope that their ability to handle more heat will make them less likely to go away at oil temps that might be pushing the limit with Viton seals.........I am just eyeball engineering also......... -- Kelly Troyer Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2 -------------- Original message from keltro@att.net (Kelly Troyer): -------------- Ken, Your point is well taken and may very well be valid.........I do not expect or advocate a mass run to change the seals (rotor or coolent) to TES....... I expect a few individuals (myself included) to try them and see how they hold up as Tracy would say "In the real world".........My primary aim was to first eliminate the problem of "What size"........Next will be how they perform in flying engines........Chuck Dunlap is currently flying with TES seals in his rotors and reports they are doing fine........ I am still waiting to hear how many hours he has on them....... -- Kelly Troyer Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2 -------------- Original message from Ken Welter : -------------- I don't know how you figure the TES seals could raise the temp but I am concerned at how stiff they are and in the application of the rotors I think the seals need to be softer and more flexible but that's just an eyeball engineers point of view, the Viton seals have worked just fine for me and in my early days of sorting things out I was running very high oil temps and still had no problems with the O-rings, if it works I don't fix it. I am however using the TES O-rings in the rotor housing and like them and will stick with them but this is an application where I don't think they need to be flexible as with the rotors but then again I am just an eyeball engineer. Ken Welter --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_11464_1125526760_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Ken,
   Just realized I did not answer your question........I do not think the TES seals
will raise oil temps.........I just hope that their ability to handle more heat will
make them less likely to go away at oil temps that might be pushing the limit
with Viton seals.........I am just eyeball engineering also.........
--
Kelly Troyer
Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2




-------------- Original message from keltro@att.net (Kelly Troyer): --------------

Ken,
   Your point is well taken and may very well be valid.........I do not expect
or advocate a mass run to change the seals (rotor or coolent) to TES.......
  I expect a few individuals (myself included) to try them and see how
they hold up as Tracy would say "In the real world".........My primary
aim was to first eliminate the problem of "What size"........Next will be
how they perform in flying engines........Chuck Dunlap is currently
flying with TES seals in his rotors and reports they are doing fine........
I am still waiting to hear how many hours he has on them.......
--
Kelly Troyer
Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2




-------------- Original message from Ken Welter <rotary.coot@verizon.net>: --------------

   I don't know how you figure the TES seals could raise the temp but I am concerned at how stiff they are and in the application of the rotors I think the seals need to be softer and more flexible but that's just an eyeball engineers point of view, the Viton seals have worked just fine for me and in my early days of sorting things out I was running very high oil temps and still had no problems with the O-rings, if it works I don't fix it.
 I am however using the TES O-rings in the rotor housing and like them and will stick with them but this is an application where I don't think they need to be flexible as with the rotors but then again I am just an eyeball engineer.
  Ken Welter




 
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