X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [202.52.32.26] (HELO venus3.veridas.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0c1) with ESMTP id 687542 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:41:44 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=202.52.32.26; envelope-from=mburke@southernphone.com.au Received: (qmail 30210 invoked from network); 31 Aug 2005 13:40:55 +1000 Received: from dsl-202-52-51-019.nsw.veridas.net (HELO veridas) (202.52.51.19) by southernphone.com.au with SMTP; 31 Aug 2005 13:40:55 +1000 Message-ID: <000301c5addd$a6c604a0$0401010a@veridas> From: "Michael Burke" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: UV-Tron Fire Detection System Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:39:52 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Hi Mark, Brilliant work there mate. I've made a note of it and will be installing when I get to that stage. I've come across a company thats manufacture a new super duper fire retardant that is so good it put out a rail tanker (Acetone) fire in a few minutes. I will be writing to them for more information. Read this article. http://firechief.com/mag/firefighting_rogue_firefighting_agent/ Michael Burke Australia. PS. My sympathies to all members of this list and their loved ones who have suffered as a result of the cyclone. wish I was there to do something. Last week we were discussing various methods of dealing with fire dangers in our aircraft. I decided to try out the Hamamatsu UV Tron flame sensor, and promised to report my findings to the Fly Rotary group. I located a pre-assembled circuit board from Superdroid Robots, a company that supplies a variety of parts for robots. They were the only place I could find that carried the Hamamatsu C3704 flame detector and driver card. So, I ordered both along with a relay board. (Attached is a picture of the boards.) The UV Tron sensor is the clear glass "bulb" in the foreground. The small board on the left is a voltage converter, allowing it to be connected directly to 14v. I hooked it up to a 12v cordless drill battery and tested it using a propane fire starter. It could easily "see" a flame from 6' away (maybe more, but I didn't test it beyond 6') and up to 90* right or left. I didn't test up/down, but the spec sheet indicates that it is about the same in the vertical and horizontal planes. I could not get it to false trip by using a fluorescent or a halogen light. There is about a .5 second delay before it trips the relay. The tech rep at Superdroid Robots indicated that the UV Tron sensor could be remotely mounted up to 3' away from the board. I plan on mounting it in a small box on the firewall with the leads running though the firewall to the circuit boards inside the cabin, wired to a big red flashing LED on the panel. Everything in the picture (including s&h) ran $150. I look at it as cheap insurance. Hopefully, I will never need it. Mark S.