X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao07.cox.net ([68.230.241.32] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0c1) with ESMTP id 681389 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 09:05:51 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.32; envelope-from=dale.r@cox.net Received: from smtp.west.cox.net ([172.18.180.56]) by fed1rmmtao07.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with SMTP id <20050825130506.XYEK25443.fed1rmmtao07.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net> for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2005 09:05:06 -0400 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.15 (webedge20-101-1103-20040528) From: Dale Rogers To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Flamible brake fluid Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 9:05:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20050825130506.XYEK25443.fed1rmmtao07.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net> Bill, Did you mean "DOT 5" fluid? DOT 4 is borate-ester/glycol based, and is compatible with (but a higher flashpoint than) DOT 3 automotive brake fluid. DOT 5.0 is silicon based; and DOT 5.1 is borate-ester/ glycol again, but more borate and less glycol for *boiling point* similar to DOT 5.0. BTW, although DOT 5.0 won't harm paint, it will render any surface it touchs *unpaintable*. Regards, Dale > From: WRJJRS@aol.com > Date: 2005/08/25 Thu AM 01:21:58 EDT > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Flamible brake fluid > > [quote snipped] > > Ed, > I have checked with several manufacturers who say their stuff is compatible > with automotive fluids. I have no idea why we would put up with the flammable > aircraft stuff. Besides DOT 4 silicone fluid which has the advantage of not > harming paint, I have been using various synthetics in my race bikes for years > which are good to better than 600°F! I have heard some older auto fluids are > corrosive to aluminum but with the number of aluminum components on modern > cars it MUST be less common. I have had all sorts of ALUMINUM BRAKE PARTS > including master cylinders on my bikes and never seen ANY problem. The aircraft > fluid is simply stupid when compared to modern auto fluids. > >