Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #25529
From: Echo Lake Fishing Resort (Georges Boucher) <echolakeresort@telus.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Incorrect Brake Parts
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 13:22:03 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time)
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Most automotive caliper piston manufactures have switched to hollow piston to reduce heat transfer.(a told to me by a parts supplier)
Georges B. 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 07/31/05 12:04:23
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Incorrect Brake Parts
 
Looks line they would both function, Todd.
 
However, I understand your concern.  When I replaced my failed brake line with a stainless steel braided hose (from Van's aircraft) it turned out to be a -4 line whereas my other gear has a -3 brake line.  Both brakes function and stop the aircraft, however, there is a distinctive difference in the feel of the two brakes.  The -3 side has almost a rock-solid feel, the -4 side has a slight bit of give upon initial depression - actually you have to go down on the toe just a bit more on that side.
 
My guess is that the greatly increased volume of the -4 line over the -3 line causes more pedal movement on the -4 side to build up the same amount of brake line pressure.  I really don't like the two different feels and have a new -3 line to replace the -4 line.
 
My guess is your two different parts would probably push on the pad with the same force - however, from what I have seen I would think that the one with the recessed top would be likely to accumulate more crude that the other one.   On the other hand, there could be a good technical reason for the recess - like perhaps less surface area to transmit heat from pad to hydraulic fluid - now that's one I could relate to.  That's the only reasons I can think of why the difference.
 
IN any case, I think I would prefer to have both the same - probably doesn't matter which on you go with.
 
Ed A
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 2:32 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Incorrect Brake Parts

WARNING - non rotary question, but since the discussion on Ed's brakes I figure some of you may know the answer.
As some of you may remember, I had a brake fire a few months ago. I ordered new parts but have been unable to find the time to install them. The text below in blue is an excerpt from the e-mail I just sent to ACS. The reason I'm asking the list is that I won't likely get a response from ACS for a few days, but I have a few spare hours today in which I was planning to go install these.
 
 When I first received the parts I opened the package to confirm the correct contents. Most of the contents were in clear plastic bags enabling me to see the contents, however the 2 brake pistons (#062-00300) were in paper envelopes so I opened one to confirm the correct part but didn't open the other until today. What I found is not the same part even though the envelope is labelled with the correct #.
    The attached picture shows the correct part on the right with the incorrect part on the left. The incorrect part has all of the same dimensions so will fit in the calliper however the recessed face on the contact surface has less surface area in which to apply pressure to the brake pad.
    Is this a new design for this part or simply an incorrect part? If it is simply a redesign of an existing part then I'll use it however I'd prefer to have the same for both sides. If it is an incorrect part then please send me the correct part. Please advise.
 
    If anybody on this list has any knowledge that this part is acceptable for use or not, I'd like to hear it as I likely won't have another opportunity to go to the airport to do these repairs for another few weeks, but I also don't want to waste any time doing this repair if I would have to change it again later as I still have way too much work around here.
    Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
Todd Bartrim
 
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
 
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