Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #25334
From: WALTER B KERR <jbker@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: fiberglass runners
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:12:26 -0400
To: <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
 
 
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 15:25:09 -0400 "Joe Berki" <jskmberki@alltel.net> writes:
Chris,
    You could use sections of blue foam used in the cannard cut in a long pipe or cynider shape.  Cut them up to make any type of pipe you want.  Coat the thing with RTV, glass over it.  Disolve the foam with solvent and pul the RTV out with pliers. It leaves a smooth surface inside the tubes.
 
Joe Berki
Limo EZ 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 2:12 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: fiberglass runners

I have seen some postings over the few years I have been on this list regarding making fiberglass runners for an intake manifold, however, I am unsure if anyone has actually made any and if not why not.  If I understand it correctly they are paths for air and would not require any "structural strength, just need to be resistant to the heat in the area they are placed and direct the air properly.  If this is true, and please correct me where I am wrong, why would fiberglass runners not work.  Is it that there are not that many composite guys on the list (just Mr. Slade and myself?) and as a result are resistant or not skilled in working with fiberglass.  Seems they would be light, easy to form and get into tighter places and do the job well.  However, I am not an engineer and am concerned about obvious stuff I could easily miss.  I am not skilled with any welding (even though my build partner, David Staten,  just bought a welder for us to learn with) so like the idea of having alternatives.
 
I am in the final stages of my Velocity airframe construction (now in the micro, sand repeat stage) and feel VERY confident in my abilities with fiberglass.  What obvious stuff am I missing regarding using high temp epoxy to make well formed runners out of fiberglass.  Y'alls input/insight is greatly appreciated.  TIA.
 
All the best,
 
Chris Barber
Houston, GSOT
LoneStarVelocity.com
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Joe, too hard!  Do it the easy lazy man's way. Get bicyle tube slightly smaller diameter than the finished tube, cut it apart . Get PVC pipe with ID of your finished runner's ID. Cut to disired length of runner and split in half. Duct tape pipe back together. Tie wrap one end of tube shut and insert into pipe. Fill with blasting sand though open end. Shoot a shot of shop air into it while holding vertical. Sand will fill tube out to PVC. When filled with sand to top of PVC, tie wrap off. Remove PVC and you have a saugage bag that you can shape to any desired curve. Apply a separating agent ( I used PAM) , then wrap with FG tape. When cured , undo tie wrap, dump sand, pull tube out and presto you have a runner with very smooth interior.
 
Bernie
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