X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from smtp108.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.198.207] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.5) with SMTP id 1021107 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:18:23 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.142.198.207; envelope-from=dcarter@datarecall.net Received: (qmail 52065 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2005 03:17:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Davidscmptr) (dcarter11@sbcglobal.net@65.70.248.228 with login) by smtp108.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Jun 2005 03:17:37 -0000 Message-ID: <05a501c57934$6a38e120$6401a8c0@ip.net> Reply-To: "David Carter" From: "David Carter" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Brake Line Incident Photos Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:17:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_05A2_01C5790A.80F682C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_05A2_01C5790A.80F682C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK, I admit I was being a bit inflammatory (no brake fire pun intended?) = in my flat (wrong) statement that the stuff in middle of braided = stainless steel brake lines would melt. So, what nomenclature/brand does one shop for and what are some good = sources for this type of brake line? - I'll use it between the caliper ass'y and the straight aluminum = running up the gear leg. David ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lehanover@aol.com=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 7:23 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Brake Line Incident Photos In a message dated 6/24/2005 3:09:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, = dcarter@datarecall.net writes: Re "stainless steel braided line", Ed: The stuff inside the = "stainless steel braid" ain't "steel" - it's rubber and/or teflon tubing - stuff = that will melt from heat soaking from hot calipers back into hose. David I have yet to see that happen in 30 years of racing. Over the last 6 = years we have been using carbon brake pads that flash the rotors to = orange with each application. I doubt that there is a light plane about = that has that problem. No brake (flex line) line failures yet. Watch the = brake shots of the NASCAR brakes at the end of each straight. Bright = orange. There are setups to circulate the brake fluid through a cooler on the = NASCAR road race cars. Anything they can do to carry away the heat.=20 Light planes use smaller brakes than I had on my go karts. Just not a = problem. Not enough mass. Not enough speed. Not enough heat. Lynn E. Hanover =20 ------=_NextPart_000_05A2_01C5790A.80F682C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK, I admit I was being a bit inflammatory (no brake fire pun = intended?) in=20 my flat (wrong) statement that the stuff in middle of braided stainless = steel=20 brake lines would melt.
 
So, what nomenclature/brand does one shop for and what are some = good=20 sources for this type of brake line?
    - I'll use it between the caliper ass'y and the = straight=20 aluminum running up the gear leg.
 
David
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Lehanover@aol.com=20
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 7:23 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Brake Line Incident = Photos

In a message dated 6/24/2005 3:09:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dcarter@datarecall.net = writes:
Re=20 "stainless steel braided line", Ed:  The stuff inside the=20 "stainless
steel braid" ain't "steel" - it's rubber and/or teflon = tubing -=20 stuff that
will melt from heat soaking from hot calipers back into=20 hose.

David
 
I have yet to see that happen in 30 years of racing. Over the last = 6 years=20 we have been using carbon brake pads that flash the rotors to orange = with each=20 application. I doubt that there is a light plane about that has that = problem. No=20 brake (flex line) line failures yet. Watch the brake shots of the NASCAR = brakes=20 at the end of each straight. Bright orange.
 
There are setups to circulate the brake fluid through a cooler on = the=20 NASCAR road race cars.
Anything they can do to carry away the heat.
 
Light planes use smaller brakes than I had on my go karts. Just not = a=20 problem. Not enough mass. Not enough speed. Not enough heat.
 
 
Lynn E. Hanover


 
 
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