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<... must  have a guardian angle looking over my shoulder ...>
My daddy used to tell me "... if you're born to hang, you'll never drown 
..."  Jim S.

Ed Anderson wrote:

> I mentioned to one of my relatives after the incident that I must 
>  have a guardian angle looking over my shoulder - her retort was  
> "Yes, but you may be overworking her and she's not getting any 
> younger!".    I know some folks feel I've had some bad luck, myself, I 
> feel the luck was all "GOOD LUCK!".  Anytime anything want to break on 
> the ground is just fine with me.
>  
> Seriously, I would not be able to convince myself to use aluminum in a 
> brake line again.  Probably using aluminum tube down close to the 
> caliper and then using stainless steel braided line for the flex 
> portion would probably work fine - me?, I'm using stainless steel 
> braided brake line all the way. 
>  
>  
> Ed
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* David Carter <mailto:dcarter@datarecall.net>
>     *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft <mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
>     *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2005 6:01 PM
>     *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Brake Line Incident Photos
>
>     Hi, Ed.  "Hindsight" my hind foot!  Us aviators are ALWAYS
>     "looking forward" . . . to preventing further occurances of
>     preventable accidents (Air Force safety jargon?).
>      
>     Sincerely, you are "breaking new ground" in the area of brakes.
>      (no double pun intended on breaking a brake line?)  I've always
>     known I'd never use plastic brake line (many have, and have melted
>     them and lost brakes during/after high speed taxi practice or hard
>     braking on landing).
>      
>     You have just drawn a perfect conclusion from yet another "brink
>     of disaster but saved by the grace of God" event (God MUST love
>     you greatly!!):  Aluminum does have crummy fatigue life.  So maybe
>     I'll get some automotive steel brake line to fit or adapt to my
>     Cleveland aircraft brakes.
>      
>     David
>      
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Ed Anderson <mailto:eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>     *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft <mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
>     *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2005 9:18 AM
>     *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Brake Line Incident Photos
>
>     David, it was aluminum tubing which is what's called for on the
>     RV-6A brake system.  However, in hindsight - thinking about the
>     low fatigue life of flexing aluminum, I think there are better
>     choices.
>      
>     Ed
>
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         *From:* David Carter <mailto:dcarter@datarecall.net>
>         *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft
>         <mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
>         *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2005 9:04 AM
>         *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Brake Line Incident Photos
>
>         Ed, what kind of brake line was that?
>          
>         David
>          
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         *From:* Ed Anderson <mailto:eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>         *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft
>         <mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
>         *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2005 7:58 AM
>         *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Brake Line Incident Photos
>
>         For those interested (and may not have seen them) , here are a
>         few photos of my brake line fire incident.
>          
>           Big chunk got blown out of brake line as can be seen from
>         Brakelines.jpg photo.  Effect of resin burning seen on wheel
>         pant photos.  Once the line broke, the next time I depressed
>         the brake pedal, a fireball from the wheel to over the wing
>         resulted from spraying the hydraulic fluid over the hot brake
>         assembly.  The flash point of the fluid is only 240F!  I am
>         going to investigate some stuff with a bit higher flash point {:>)
>          
>          
>         Ed
>          
>         Ed Anderson
>         Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
>         Matthews, NC
>         eanderson@carolina.rr.com <mailto:eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>