Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #24272
From: kevin lane <n3773@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Prop balancing
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:37:52 -0700
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Message
you can join the RV Homewing, now chapter 105, and use their $4000 balancer for free. guess that doesn't help all you southerners though.
Kevin Lane  Portland, OR
e-mail-> n3773@comcast.net
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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 9:59 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Prop balancing

What G-force and frequency range are we talking about? 
 
See attached chart of acceleration limits. 
 
Do you find an RPM of high amplitude and work there. 
 
The manual suggests a low cruise setting for the rpm.  I'm not sure it matters much, but you need to reproduce the same rpm from one run to the next for best results. 
 
What sort of weights do you put on the prop? 
 
None.  You put the permanent weights on the spinner back plate, but the temporary weights generally go under the spinner attachment screws on the outside of the spinner.  On Lycomings, you can put them on the flywheel, since there are already holes every 30 degrees.    
   
I assume placement is amount is trial and error. 
 
Yep, no equipment required :-)  Kidding.
   
Does this approach work on a three-blade? 
 
Absolutely.
 
Any info on how this is done appreciated 
 
Using the professional equipment, it's pretty easy.  Basically, you set up one vibration sensor, vertical, as close to the prop hub as you can get (I've got a bracket that clamps to the nose of the redrive).  You also set up an optical tach, with a piece of reflective tape on one blade.  Pick an rpm, and the analyzer tells you what the peak acceleration reading is, and how many degrees from the tape mark it occurred at.  It then suggests a temporary weight that should be attached, and tells you what position to install it.
 
If you think about this, you will realize that the distance the sensor is from the prop, and the distance the weight is from the center of the prop hub both make a difference on how much weight is required.  The program doesn't know any of these variables up front, and doesn't care.  It initially picks a weight that it knows will make a measurable change, then you install it, and re-run the test.   From the change that was made, using a known weight, the program can now calculate what the real  weight should be to make the change required.  Each time, the old weights are removed, and the new weight is installed where the program suggests
 
The program will continue to work well, even if you don't do exactly what it says, as long as you are honest, and tell the program what you really did.  For example, if it says put 15 grams at 355 degrees, and you have a spinner hole at 360, then put 15 grams at 360, and enter that for the actual weight in the program.  If you have a hole at 30 and 60 degrees, and it wants weight at 39 degrees, you can tell it to split the weight, and give it the two locations you have available.  It will then tell you how much weight to put in each location to make the equivalent weight.  Pretty handy.  
 
When you get to .06 ips or less, you have to convert the temporary weights to permanent ones.  For that, you measure the radius the temporary weights are located, and the radius you want to install the permanent weights, and the program will tell you how much to adjust the weights for the new location.    
 
  Or maybe Rusty has purchased the professional equipment by now and wants to rent it out J. 
 
 We have vibration analyzers similar to this for measuring site environmental qualifications for MRI scanners, and it takes just a few trips on the FedEx plane to convert a new piece of equipment to junk.   In other words, there will be no renting, or shipping of equipment, but I can certainly offer a reasonably priced balance job if you bring your airplane to 2R4.  Send all your experimental Lycoming friends too, since those are simple :-)
 
Cheers,
Rusty (fighting Al's font for control)
 
 

 

 

 

 


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