Return-Path: Received: from remt19.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.8.29] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1) with ESMTP id 2511197 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 14:56:31 -0400 Received: from [68.113.203.179] (HELO gamarrdesk) by remt19.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 112425474 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 14:56:30 -0400 From: "Giffen A. Marr" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: Oshkosh Grumps Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 13:56:14 -0500 Message-ID: <006d01c35aba$14a30230$6603a7c0@gamarrdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: Just got back from Oshkosh. It was a great show. Do I enjoy being with 350,000 of my closest friends, No! Do I like the prices, well compared to other venues, they are a little cheaper. [Fuel was $1.99/gal] Can you research specific builder questions on about any subject, you bet. Can you see the latest and greatest new non-certificated products, you bet. Can you see the latest and greatest in certificated products, maybe, but usually a couple of years behind the non-certificated products. Can you see row after row of homebuilt's, you bet. Can you attend forums and workshops, you bet and on just about any aviation subject you might be interested in. [I attended a least 12] I agree, they screwed up on the automotive conversion line this year. Even I had to ask around to find Tracy and Dave's planes. They were within about 300 feet of one another. Had to really look to find Tom Parkes 20B Lancair ES. [All those Lancairs look the same until you peer into the cowl] To the best of my knowledge, it is the first flying 20B in a Lancair, with a IV-P under construction in Canada. There was a IV-P with a strange cowl, with two NACA lower inlets. Did not hear the description, but I'm guessing maybe a V-8. This is the largest Aviation Show in the World. Much is to be gained by going. Perhaps you may want to explore a subset of EAA for Automotive Conversions, such as the War birds, Vintage Aircraft, etc. This would allow you to have a small gathering, such as Tracy's, where you can gather to discuss that explicate subject, without the crowds, where everyone has a very focused shared interest. Marv's forum was excellent. Attended two of Dave's which helped me a great deal. Really enjoyed my discussions with Tracy and Tom and came away with far more knowledge then when I started. Giffen Marr Lancair IV-P wan-a-be