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Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 14:50:53 -0700
From: David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com>
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To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Crash investigation
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I agree with Ed and Todd.=20

BTW, He has just confirmed on the ACRE list that he was indeed there
but no word on what he found.  Hewever, there was a mysterious warning
from him about Andar fuel valves in low wing aircraft....

Dave Leonard

On 5/21/05, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
> The cause of the previous fatal rotary crash was official found to be "th=
e
> disabling of the oil injection system", when the poor guy actually had hi=
s
> oil cooler blow. This lead to lost of oil, engine sizing which together w=
ith
> the real cause - adverse aft CG of the Coot  he was flying  prevented an
> engine-out recovery.  They consulted the local Mazda dealer who's mechani=
cs
> probably had never seen the inside of a rotary engine and they noted the =
oil
> injection system disabled - and there was no one to explain to the NSTB t=
hat
> we premix oil and even if there had been no premix the engine would not h=
ave
> seized. But, as someone mentioned the NSTB just wants to nail a cause and
> close the report.  Since ever experimental is different, I believe they h=
ave
> little incentive to spend a lot of time on an accident.  Unlike where the=
y
> may be hundreds or thousands of GA aircraft all built to the same
> design/standard - so if they do find something about a GA it may affect
> hundreds of aircraft instead of one or two or a dozen.
>=20
> While I share some of your concerns about PL,  I do believe he would
> preclude (provided he isn't thrown out by the NSTB team {:>)) such an
> erroneous conclusion being drawn.
>=20
> Ed
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Todd Bartrim" <haywire@telus.net>
> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 4:46 PM
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Crash investigation
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>=20
> >
> > Is THAT guy going to be in on it?  If PL is on the scene, we'll hear a
> > lot of pronouncements that pump up his ego.  I expect some unsupported
> > generalities around Paul's design flaws (reminiscent of "EWP and
> > Plugs-Up and etc. are stupid, flawed ideas that can never work" ...
> > I'll be very surprised if we get anything beyond that ... Jim S.
> >
> >>>  Archive:   http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html
> >
> >
> > I considered this also, but I'd like to think that he would have enough
> > scruples to not use this tragedy to promote his own ideals and his
> > newsgroup
> > while denouncing this list and our ways. Until he proves otherwise, I'l=
l
> > just be happy that there may be more input to the FAA investigation tha=
n
> > from the local Mazda garage mechanic.
> > I would kick in a little $$ if necessary in order to purchase the wreck=
age
> > for an investigation by members of this group. I feel we owe Paul at le=
ast
> > this much.
> >
> > Todd Bartrim
> >
> > RV9Endurance
> > 13B Turbo Rotary
> > C-FSTB
> > http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
> >
> >             "The world will always have a place for those that bring ha=
rd
> > work and determination to the things they do."
> >
> >
> >>>  Homepage:  http://www.flyrotary.com/
> >>>  Archive:   http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html
> >
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>=20
>=20
> >>  Homepage:  http://www.flyrotary.com/
> >>  Archive:   http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html
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--=20
Wm. David Leonard