X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.101] (HELO ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 952282 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:42:37 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.101; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-065-188-083-049.carolina.res.rr.com [65.188.83.49]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j4LLfp0W025296 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:41:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001501c55e4d$ecec0270$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Crash investigation Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 17:42:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine The cause of the previous fatal rotary crash was official found to be "the disabling of the oil injection system", when the poor guy actually had his oil cooler blow. This lead to lost of oil, engine sizing which together with the real cause - adverse aft CG of the Coot he was flying prevented an engine-out recovery. They consulted the local Mazda dealer who's mechanics probably had never seen the inside of a rotary engine and they noted the oil injection system disabled - and there was no one to explain to the NSTB that we premix oil and even if there had been no premix the engine would not have seized. But, as someone mentioned the NSTB just wants to nail a cause and close the report. Since ever experimental is different, I believe they have little incentive to spend a lot of time on an accident. Unlike where they may be hundreds or thousands of GA aircraft all built to the same design/standard - so if they do find something about a GA it may affect hundreds of aircraft instead of one or two or a dozen. While I share some of your concerns about PL, I do believe he would preclude (provided he isn't thrown out by the NSTB team {:>)) such an erroneous conclusion being drawn. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Bartrim" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 4:46 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Crash investigation > > Is THAT guy going to be in on it? If PL is on the scene, we'll hear a > lot of pronouncements that pump up his ego. I expect some unsupported > generalities around Paul's design flaws (reminiscent of "EWP and > Plugs-Up and etc. are stupid, flawed ideas that can never work" ... > I'll be very surprised if we get anything beyond that ... Jim S. > >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > I considered this also, but I'd like to think that he would have enough > scruples to not use this tragedy to promote his own ideals and his > newsgroup > while denouncing this list and our ways. Until he proves otherwise, I'll > just be happy that there may be more input to the FAA investigation than > from the local Mazda garage mechanic. > I would kick in a little $$ if necessary in order to purchase the wreckage > for an investigation by members of this group. I feel we owe Paul at least > this much. > > Todd Bartrim > > RV9Endurance > 13B Turbo Rotary > C-FSTB > http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm > > "The world will always have a place for those that bring hard > work and determination to the things they do." > > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >