Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #22248
From: Russell Duffy <13brv3@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Rev-5 intake suggestions?
Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 14:41:20 -0500
To: Flyrotary List <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Message
Greetings,
 
Attached are pics of the current intake situation.   They're cropped and compressed as much as I dare, in order to be more dialup friendly.  Some comments on the pics follow:
 
1-  I recently added the scoop in a scoop to try to improve my MAP in-flight, but I can't say it worked.  I'll probably remove the scoop part, and leave the smooth hole in the bottom of the rad diffuser, which might be better than the way it is now.
 
2-  Another view of the inlet and hose to the airbox.  This is 3" ID SCEET (inner and outer layer of material).
 
3-  A view of the airbox.  As you can see, it's small, and can't be much bigger.  The cowl is almost touching the top of it.
 
4-  Inside the airbox.  This shows the 40mm TB inlets, and the "shorty" air horns that TWM sells.
 
5-  The top of the intake, where the TB bolts to the two runners.  The yellow hoses are MAP ports, and are connected together for a more stable reading.  The MAP ports are only about 4" from the inlet to the TB, so I'm losing about 2.5" of MAP in the first 4" of intake.  The tubing is the same ID as the TB, about 40mm.
 
6-  This shows the two main runners merging into the Mazdadrix intake.  I spent a lot of time getting the transition smooth inside, so it's much better than it looks from the outside.  If I decide to try Bernie's pitot idea, the ideal place would be to drill and tap a small hole directly below the main runners, there the primary and secondary split. 
 
I've measured the port size on the housings, and found that the combined primary and secondary port areas equal a 45mm ID tube.  Clearly, my 40mm ID tube and TB is smaller than that, so I'm sure that's an issue, though not sure how much of an issue. 
 
The airbox is tiny, and lacks proper "trumpets", which is what Leon feels is the main problem.  I have to agree.  Unfortunately, in the confines of the area where this is located, there's no way to do it properly.  
 
The burning question for Lynn and others- is the 40MM size of my TB and tubes causing me to lose power, or is this strictly a problem of not being able to get air into the TB efficiently enough? 
 
Without scrapping the whole intake, the best thing I can think of to try is to add a tube joining the two main runners.  If the 40mm runners are a problem, then the tube would have to go near the intake end of the runners, but if the problem is mostly getting air into the TB, then the balance tube could go near TB end of the runners, and would disturb the momentum of the airflow in the runners less.  Installing the balance tube seems like it would act the same as a tiny plenum does in a more typical system. 
 
So what should I do about this, and be nice :-)
 
Thanks,
Rusty (Sonerai Sold, down to only one unflyable plane now)
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