X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.195] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 952033 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 21 May 2005 13:17:14 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.233.162.195; envelope-from=wdleonard@gmail.com Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so1194028nzo for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 10:16:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dhCibXJ851g/bSYnZspJ7OiG2EG0mYgpuv5VFLZWRse2eTUK+n+s6v5ulvaG0xbbQSdvxxv4N/nOk7RpuvQQJxrTxojckobiaEqXnns9DS/Yh40GJB9Tz8Tz5SrP61ELpy0p5kVQjn6Dxsa2zZnsi5sDjkeQuKMXrFSNPzqRv7o= Received: by 10.36.19.18 with SMTP id 18mr1155432nzs; Sat, 21 May 2005 10:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.9.4 with HTTP; Sat, 21 May 2005 10:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c23473f0505211016521dce47@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 10:16:29 -0700 From: David Leonard Reply-To: David Leonard To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Quality Assurance / Peer Review ( was: Re: Seized 13b ...) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: I think this is a good idea. Kind of like a tech counselor for rotary installations. Flying or not, almost anyone who has been on this list for a while would have something to offer. I would of course be willing to lend my eyes to any projects out west. Tracy or Ed would of course be excellent resources. And as much as many on this list would hate to admit it, Paul Lamar is usually willing and has the time. As opinionated as he can be, he also has a tremendous amount of experience. He picked up a couple important improvements for me from the pictures I sent. He also sent me (free) those constant tension hose clamps that, although heavy, I do feel are important if using hose clamps on coolant hose. No one says that you have to listen to everything he says, but I have never seen him give any advise that would make an installation less safe. Dave Leonard Now with 135 hrs in 10 months flying New turbo is going on as we speak (pictures tomorrow) Cleaning out cooling system for the Evans Coolant Adding additional ducting to augment cooling for new turbo. > Jack, >=20 > Although I agree with you in principle, I don't in the > details. We have a number of very knowledgeable people > in the group, who have not yet brought the fruits of > their expertise into the air. That does not mean their > observations won't be valid. Should more weight be given > to the observations of those who are flying? In most cases, > I would. >=20 > Dale >=20 > > From: "Jack Ford" > > Date: 2005/05/21 Sat AM 10:39:30 EDT > > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Seized 13b - accident prevention > > > > MessageI'd think that a formal organization might need to be in existen= ce for an insurance company to take it seriously. > > > > This may be another step towards making alternative engine installation= s routine and safe (if there's such a thing as safe). A sort of self-polici= ng association. > > > > Now that it's been brought up (Thanks, Al), I wouldn't think of making = a first flight without some experienced eyeballs taking a close looksee at = my "perfect" installation. It would be nice to know that the inspectors had= at least flown successfully. > > > > My two cents. > > > > Jack Ford (Rank beginner) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Russell Duffy > > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 3:26 PM > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Seized 13b - accident prevention > > > > > > Am I way off the mark here? Could/would this work? Are there others= out there who would participate as "examiners"? Would you welcome such "l= ook-over" on your project? Do you think it would do any good? I'd like som= e feedback on this, and then see whether it makes sense to pursue it any fu= rther. > > > > Hi Al, > > > > I think this is a noble effort, but I don't see that anything formal = needs to be set up. I'd bet that anyone on this list would feel comfortab= le asking to see someone else's project, or asking to have someone look at = theirs. > > > > Now if you could pitch this idea to the insurance companies, for a co= ndition of first flight coverage, or cheaper rates, then you may be onto so= mething. > > > > Cheers, > > Rusty (balance gear has arrived) > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >=20 --=20 Wm. David Leonard