X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao11.cox.net ([68.230.241.28] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 951710 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 20 May 2005 23:01:02 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.28; envelope-from=dale.r@cox.net Received: from smtp.west.cox.net ([172.18.180.52]) by fed1rmmtao11.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with SMTP id <20050521030017.ZBMJ12158.fed1rmmtao11.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net> for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 23:00:17 -0400 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.15 (webedge20-101-1103-20040528) From: Dale Rogers To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC2 problems (was: More MAP measurement questions) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 23:00:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050521030017.ZBMJ12158.fed1rmmtao11.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net> John, I do electronic troubleshooting for a living. Usually, when I have repeated failures of a single module it's because something else to which it is connected is "eating" it. A likely candidate is a sensor that has too low impedence/resistence and therefore is passing too much current. Less common in recent years is voltage on the return line. It's amazing how dead a component will get with as little as -1.5V on a line that's supposed to be zero. You also might consider getting a voltage regulator for the B+ going into the EC2. I don't have ready access to specifics right now, but regulats\or ASICs are a fairly standard item. It might be worth putting a scope on your charging circuit to see what kind of spikes the alternator regulator is actually allowing out on the +12V line. The RMS voltage (okay, I know that DC isn't actually measured in RMS) could be 14.2V but the regulator could still be allowing mSec length 20V spikes to pass through. ['course you have to get it *running* again to check for that :) ] A separate regulator for the EC2 might buy you the time you need to find a B+ problem. I'd come out and help you look for it, but it's a 2000 mile flight, and I still have to work next week. Regards, Dale R. > From: "John Slade" > Date: 2005/05/20 Fri PM 08:51:53 EDT > ... > The test went well. We plugged my EC2 into Buly's harness and immediately > got the NOP message on his EM2. We didn't check the spark, but the engine > would not fire at all. We then reinstalled his EC2. The NOP message went > away, and the engine fired up immediately on cranking. There we have it. My > EC2 is dead. Next question - why is it dead, and did I fry it when I > connected it to the old wiring? Have I corrected the problem by rewiring > everything? Of course, we could have tested my wiring by installing Buly's > EC2 in my plane. He didn't offer, and I didn't ask :) > ...