Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #21981
From: Joe <Jewen@Comporium.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Brazing Rods
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:49:46 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Hi Ed,
Thanks for getting back on the brazing rods.  I too enjoyed our conversation, reams of useful info for me.  I thought your brazed joints looked great, so I wanted to confirm what you used.  Since the intake system I purchased last August has not materialized and the Vendor returned my money, it looks like I have to add building an intake to my list of exhaust/turbo and cooling design and building.
 
I am wondering if you know, if the Renesis with a 4 Port intake (Auto/Low HP version) has the same pattern as other 4 port engines.  I liked the way your intake looked and I know you have done a lot of experimenting in this area.  I would rather follow in a master's shoes than perform numerous experiments. 
 
Not sure what you are paying for 100LL to the North, the new FBO in KLKR is $3.45 and very friendly.  If you are ever in the area again, please give me a call.
 
Thanks,
Joe 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:28 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Brazing Rods

Hi Joe,
 
Yes, I recall, enjoyed our chat.  You are correct it is the HTS-2000  website http://newtechnologyproducts.net/order.htm
 
I purchased directly from the vendor using their $65 special for 1 lb of the stuff.  I doubt that they would sell lesser amounts - but I have not asked. 
 
In any case, that is the stuff and I have found it great to use.  I tried at least 3 other aluminum brazing rods and got little more than puddles of the stuff sizzling around on the metal I was trying to braze but no joining.  No-doubt my lack of technique - but this stuff is much less critical.  I have brazed .048 thick wall 6061T6 to a heavy aluminum manifold casting with no problem.  They tell you to brush with a stainless steel brush while brazing but I just brush it clean of scale with the brush initially and braze away(set too many wooden handle stainless steel brushes on fire while trying to brush while brazing - must be like chewing bubble gum and walking at the same time {:>))
 
I initially started out using the MAP gas because of hits higher heat content, but then found that regular (cheaper)  propane would do just fine provided you had a high BTU torch (for heavy stuff like castings).  You do have to set it for a high BTU flow if you are brazing anything heavy, but smaller torches work well for lighter stuff.
 
Here's a photo showing the bottom tubes brazed to the aluminum manifold casting and the upper tubes brazed to the 3/8" thick 6061 plate.  Not too messy.
 
 
Ed A
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:40 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Brazing Rods

Ed Anderson,
When we spoke a couple of weeks ago at KLKR, you mentioned a great brazing rod for aluminum.  Was it New Technology's HTS-2000.  If so may I ask where you bought, direct from the vendor or were you able to find a smaller quantity than 1 lb..  If this is not the vendor or product may I ask again what it was.
 
Thanks,
Joe


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