Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #21485
From: David Carter <dcarter@datarecall.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EGT temps
Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 21:38:30 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Rusty, good point about treating your exhaust kindly - that is about the only valid reason for "cooling the EGT".  I think we agree it is not an issue of engine "running badly" or "hurting engine" - just hurting the [non-Inconel or non-titanium] exhaust pipes.
 
It always happens - I make a dogmatic statement - and get to learn something I hadn't thought of before!
 
I'm thinking if mine were to run that hot, I'd just back off the throttle (or lean aggressively)  to cool the EGT to whatever I thought the exh system would tolerate ddurig climb (or race) - but wouldn't change a thing about the engine, timing etc.  Hmmm - I wonder about timing.
 
Once I built up a VW engine for use in an airplane - put it back in my VW Bus and cranked it up for first time - exhaust smoked and eventually the "undercoating" (petroleum based) that I'd sprayed under car to protecte from salt and snow in Des Moines, Iowa, caught fire!!  I hadn't thought the engine was running quite right - then it dawned on me:  The timing was way RETARDED - firing too late - and lots of stuff burning at flame temp IN THE MUFFLER (a Kadron extractor).  That's why it was so hot.  When I rechecked the timing and got it set correctly, the "high EGTs" went away - no more smoking and fires back there.  Ran it another eighty thousand miles in the bus (didn't build the Vari-Eze).
 
So, could "timing being retarded/firing too late" cause "higher than normal EGT"?  Anyone else think there might be a timing problem if someone reports "higher than other folks' EGT"?  Not making a "dogmatic statement" this time, just asking for a sanity check or other operational anecdotes.
 
David
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:47 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EGT temps

So, I believe there is no such thing as "EGT too high".  There is only "peak EGT", whatever it is for  your installation.
 
 
Hi David,
 
Everything you said sounds right to me, with a note that the (NA) rotary can run way lean of peak, and not be damaged.  This is actually a neat phenomenon.  You can climb to cruise altitude, and leave the throttle wide open, then use the mixture almost as a throttle. 
 
I would also have to note that EGT can be too high.  Mine will easily exceed 1800 degrees, and I don't think I'd want to do that to my exhaust system very long. 
 
Cheers,
Rusty
 
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