X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from email2k3.itlnet.net ([64.19.112.12] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 933564 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 05 May 2005 12:37:07 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.19.112.12; envelope-from=jwvoto@itlnet.net Received: from rav.itlnet.net (unverified [192.168.10.149]) by itlnet.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 6.1.17) with SMTP id for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:36:28 -0500 Received: from JWVOTO (unverified [64.19.116.77]) by itlnet.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 6.1.17) with SMTP id for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:36:27 -0500 Message-ID: <013e01c55190$d4b80f60$9a731340@JWVOTO> From: "Wendell Voto" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Duct Nearly Finished Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:19:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0132_01C55153.7FF18FC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0132_01C55153.7FF18FC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Would you give instructions for making the plastic manifold? Wendell No! Steve!, No! Never! {:>). Actually, I have come a ways since I = made my first horrid attempt at fiberglass work. I used to spend a week = on the mold, Paint it with mold separator, wax it, etc. Then mainly = because of the shapes ended up having to destroy the mold to get the = product. First breakthrough was use of duct tape - but still ended up = with foam mold mainly destroyed. So know I use a type of "tan" foam that = epoxy does not destroy, carve the shape with rasp and a brush with stiff = brass bristles and slap the fiberglass directly on the foam. For ducts, = its nice because then I can shape the foam internally to get exactly = the curve I want. Fiberglass does have advantages in many cases. But, don't think a large scale composite project is even on the = distant horizon {:>) Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Steve Brooks=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 7:04 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Duct Nearly Finished Ed, It sounds like you're becoming quite handy with fiberglass. You may = be ready to start a composite project. Steve Brooks=20 -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:44 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Duct Nearly Finished Got the new duct nearly finished. Just need to pop rivet the = hinge halves on it, sand some of the worst bumps off, paint it and put = it on. Then ready to go fly and try out the new duct and engine. Took = two days, to make the mold, fiberglass the outside and contour the = inside for that trumpet shape - it would have taken me two weeks 5 years = ago - but still prefer metal {:>). Now just have to whip up a combination filter holder and Plenum = and I'm done with mods for the summer (I think). Tracy got the apex seals for analysis but just headed out to = Colorado like he had planned rather than postpone his trip to play with = the seals - just don't know about some folks {:>). Sure makes me wonder why airline builders use all of those = expensive circuit breakers rather than cheap fuses - must be something = I'm missing. Fortunately, we have the right to make the choice that = suits our preferences (and pocket book). Ed Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com ------=_NextPart_000_0132_01C55153.7FF18FC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Would you give instructions for making the = plastic=20 manifold?
Wendell
No! Steve!, No!  Never! = {:>). =20 Actually, I have come a ways since I made my first horrid attempt at=20 fiberglass work.  I used to spend a week on the mold, Paint it = with mold=20 separator, wax it, etc.  Then mainly because of the shapes ended = up=20 having to destroy the mold to get the product.  First = breakthrough was=20 use of duct tape - but still ended up with foam mold mainly destroyed. = So know=20 I use a type of "tan" foam that epoxy does not destroy, carve the = shape with=20 rasp and a brush with stiff brass bristles and slap the fiberglass = directly on=20 the foam.  For ducts, its nice because then I can shape the foam=20 internally to get  exactly the curve I want.  Fiberglass = does have=20 advantages in many cases.
 
But, don't think a large scale = composite project=20 is even on the distant horizon {:>)
 
Ed
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Steve=20 Brooks
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 = 7:04=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Duct = Nearly=20 Finished

Ed,
It=20 sounds like you're becoming quite handy with fiberglass.  You = may be=20 ready to start a composite project.
 
Steve Brooks
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors = in=20 aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of = Ed=20 Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:44 = PM
To:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Duct = Nearly=20 Finished

Got the new duct nearly = finished.  Just=20 need to pop rivet the hinge halves on it, sand some of the worst = bumps=20 off, paint it and put it on.  Then ready to go fly and try = out the=20 new duct and engine.  Took two days, to make the mold, = fiberglass the=20 outside and contour the inside for that trumpet shape - it would = have=20 taken me two weeks 5 years ago - but still prefer metal=20 {:>).
 
Now just have to whip up a = combination filter=20 holder and Plenum and I'm done with mods for the summer (I=20 think).
 
Tracy got the apex seals for=20 analysis but just headed out to Colorado like he had planned = rather=20 than postpone his trip to play with the seals - just don't know = about some=20 folks {:>).
 
Sure makes me wonder why airline = builders use=20 all of those expensive circuit breakers rather than cheap fuses - = must be=20 something I'm missing.  Fortunately, we have the right to = make the=20 choice that suits our preferences (and pocket book).
 
Ed
 
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW = Rotary=20 Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
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