X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-PolluStop-Diagnostic: (direct reply)\eX-PolluStop-Score: 0.00\eX-PolluStop: Scanned with Niversoft PolluStop 2.1 RC1, http://www.niversoft.com/pollustop Return-Path: Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.167] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c4) with ESMTP id 870302 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:42:17 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.133.182.167; envelope-from=canarder@frontiernet.net Received: from filter08.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter08.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.75]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7203935821D for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.167]) by filter08.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter08.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.75]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24693-05-34 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (67-137-85-235.dsl2.cok.tn.frontiernet.net [67.137.85.235]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC6A635819D for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:41:32 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <425FC47E.7020907@frontiernet.net> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:41:18 -0500 From: Jim Sower User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: V shape Apex Seal Slots? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0515-2, 04/15/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter08.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Lee, This would seem to indicate that if one discovered "tapered" slots before the seal came out and ate up the engine he could cut them out to 3 mm and give the rotor a whole new life. Does that make sense? ... Jim S. PS For '88 and '89 NA engines, how does $400 for a running engine and $250 for a core sound? Lehanover@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 04/15/2005 1:44:52 AM Central Daylight Time, >lendich@optusnet.com.au writes: > >The slot is perfectly straight. No taper at all. If you stand a new or near >new apex seal on end in the slot, the exposed end should not move more than >(about) 3/16" total. New slot and new seal gives nearly no movement. The 3/16" >would be end of life span. > >For aircraft use, new or nearly new is the way to go. > >You can take engines apart that have been running fine, and the apex seals >are just about to fall out of the slots they are so short. The slots can wear >into obvious "V" shapes, and the engine is still running fine. My wife's RX-3 >did that. I was just sitting at a stop sign one day and whack!! A seal came out >of what was left of a big "V" slot and the rotor crushed it against the >housing. There was no chrome left on the rotor housings. Big grooves in the irons. >The only piece I could use was the crank. >The whole thing was scrap. > >The rotors are made of cast steel. You can weld on them. I have TIGed holes >shut and built up gouges and smoothed them off. Again not for aircraft but for >a dune buggy or any non critical application, I see no reason for scrapping a >piece I can fix quickly. > >I grew up during W.W.II and you were literally not allowed to throw anything >away. So I don't (until recently). > >Lynn E. Hanover > > > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>> >>> > > > >