Return-Path: Received: from bree.pipcom.com ([204.92.62.3] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1b8) with SMTP id 2435171 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 23:15:19 -0400 Received: (qmail 7521 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2003 03:15:16 -0000 Received: from ras3-34.pipcom.com (HELO new) (204.92.62.166) by bree.pipcom.com with SMTP; 19 Jun 2003 03:15:16 -0000 Message-ID: <00d301c33610$b32f3d20$0b3cfea9@new> From: "Peter Cowan/Lexy Cameron" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Starter Problem Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 23:13:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 > > The referenced article states that current through the starter switch > > >will > > >be somewhere between 25-35 amps. Most switches I've seen are rated at > > >10-15 amps. Pegasus Auto Racing, Inc. has a 40 amp push-button starter > > >switch (p/n 4546) for $8.99, if that's what you > > >prefer. http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pdfs/047.pdf > > The rather long and small diameter wire that makes up the solenoid windings > limit current flow in two ways. Plain resistance and inductive reactance. The > closing of the starter button applies power to this coil. The current flow > generates a flux field (that makes the armature move) and the expanding flux field > cuts through those same windings and in doing so, generates a current flow > that opposes the battery generated current flow. So, that the current flow > increases very slowly > (in electrical terms) . > > There would seldom be any damage from latching up the solenoid. However, > since the solenoid is a coil of many turns with a fully developed flux field > expanded through it, when you release the starter button, that flux field collapses > and this solenoid coil acts exactly like the ignition coil. Now the > collapsing flux field re-cuts all of the coil windings in a very short period, and > starts an arc across the slowly (in electrical terms) opening contacts of the > starter button. Eventually the contacts will become so damaged and dirty that > current flow cannot be established. > > You can protect this set of contacts (points)? Just as the points in an old > car are protected. Just place a capacitor across the contacts. You can add a > high value resister to bleed down the capacitor if you like. You don't need a > high current switch at all. In my GTP Lola we used a micro switch. The wires to > the switch weighed as much as the switch. Or, if you worry about this kind of > thing, put in a 30 amp rated starter button. > > Any time you power up an inductive loop you should be aware of the very high > voltages and arcing that my occur when the circuit is opened. > Hi Lynn What value capacitor do you suggest? Peter