Return-Path: Received: from grunt27.ihug.com.au ([203.109.249.147] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c3) with ESMTP id 800147 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 05:31:57 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=203.109.249.147; envelope-from=mickandfi@ihug.com.au Received: from 203-166-242-54.dyn.iinet.net.au (dinkie) [203.166.242.54] by grunt27.ihug.com.au with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1DBsHU-0007mW-00; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:31:08 +1100 Message-ID: <003401c52adc$701b3490$36f2a6cb@dinkie> From: "Michael Haynes" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Electric water pump an fittings Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:31:10 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01C52B38.A2DBE490" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C52B38.A2DBE490 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageHi Todd I have welded AN20 fittings to my water pump and Stratoflex 111-20 hose = is available. The hose fittings are very expensive though. Cheers Michael ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bartrim, Todd=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 10:14 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Electric water pump Hi Jerry; While the basic block is unchanged from those pictures, I did = modify the orientation of the hose nipples and upsized them for 1 1/4" = hose when I added the coolant header tank and rerouted the hose runs for = a shorter and cleaner installation. I also moved the turbo coolant to = the coolant header tank and plugged this inlet as I felt the turbulence = caused by a flow return at this point may be somewhat restrictive. Also = I believe I must have had a dyslexic moment when I labelled those pics = as it is "RTD", not "RDT". Another point that I'd like to bring up right now is hose sizes. I = often hear the statement that a car is only run on 30% power on average = and yet the auto manufactures use a minimum of 1 1/4" hoses for coolant. = But in our airplanes builders commonly use much smaller hoses & fittings = usually in order to use AN fittings of which I believe AN16 is the = largest (correct me if I'm wrong) and is only 3/4". I don't understand = this reasoning. I used 1 1/4" hoses up to the "T" where the rads are = plumbed in parallel, where I step it down to 2 -1"hoses. Even the "T's" = were made with minimum restriction in mind. If we have a higher power = demand from the engine (which is always used as a reason not to use = EWP's), then why restrict it's coolant flow? Todd (what I do can't be called typing) =20 Thanks Todd, I am pretty sure I will follow your example. Could you = provide a verbal description of the adaptor block? Thanks, Jerry=20 Hi Jerry, Here's a link to the archived message Todd sent when he made the = adapter. It's got a description, and several pics. =20 http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/Message/261.html?Language=20 Meziere also makes two different adapters for the rotary. See = attached. Cheers, Rusty (saving Todd some typing) ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C52B38.A2DBE490 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Hi Todd
 I have welded AN20 fittings to my = water pump=20 and Stratoflex 111-20 hose is available. The hose fittings are very = expensive=20 though.
Cheers
 Michael
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bartrim, Todd
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 = 10:14=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Electric water=20 pump

Hi Jerry;
   =20 While the basic block is = unchanged from=20 those pictures, I did modify the orientation of the hose nipples and = upsized=20 them for 1 1/4" hose when I added the coolant header tank and rerouted = the=20 hose runs for a shorter and cleaner installation. I also moved the = turbo=20 coolant to the coolant header tank and plugged this inlet as I felt = the=20 turbulence caused by a flow return at this point may be somewhat = restrictive.=20 Also I believe I must have had a dyslexic moment when I labelled those = pics as=20 it is "RTD", not "RDT".
   =20 Another point that I'd = like to bring up=20 right now is hose sizes. I often hear the statement that a car is only = run on=20 30% power on average and yet the auto manufactures use a minimum of 1 = 1/4"=20 hoses for coolant. But in our airplanes builders commonly use much = smaller=20 hoses & fittings usually in order to use AN fittings of which I = believe=20 AN16 is the largest (correct me if I'm wrong) and is only 3/4". I = don't=20 understand this reasoning. I used 1 1/4" hoses up to the "T" where the = rads=20 are plumbed in parallel, where I step it down to 2 -1"hoses. Even the = "T's"=20 were made with minimum restriction in mind. If we have a higher power = demand=20 from the engine (which is always used as a reason not to use EWP's), = then why=20 restrict it's coolant flow?
 
Todd    (what I do can't be = called=20 typing)


 
Thanks Todd, I am pretty sure I will follow your example. Could = you=20 provide a verbal description of the adaptor block? Thanks, = Jerry 
 
Hi=20 Jerry,
 
Here's a=20 link to the archived message Todd sent when he made the = adapter.  It's=20 got a description, and several = pics.  
http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/Message/261.html?Language=  
 
Meziere=20 also makes two different adapters for the rotary.  See=20 attached.
 
Cheers,
Rusty=20 (saving Todd some typing)
 
 
 
 
 
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