Return-Path: Received: from rtp-iport-2.cisco.com ([64.102.122.149] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP id 769872 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 04 Mar 2005 09:28:21 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.102.122.149; envelope-from=echristl@cisco.com Received: from rtp-core-2.cisco.com (64.102.124.13) by rtp-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 04 Mar 2005 09:27:37 -0500 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Received: from [172.18.179.180] (echristl-linux.cisco.com [172.18.179.180]) by rtp-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j24ERYjI010996 for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2005 09:27:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <42287056.3050403@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 09:27:34 -0500 From: Ernest Christley User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040929 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EWP Test Results/DRAG References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Carter wrote: >I like dyno data for engine performance, but a "cooling SYSTEM" can't be >simulated unless you put the dyno in a NASA wind tunnel and replicate the >two main stages of flight - takeoff and climb at full throttle (need >everything right for that speed) and cruise (don't need much coolant flow or >pump) - - - and WOT top speed (for us racers or racer wunnabe's) > >David > > And a dyno won't tell you how the engine will perform in a race car as it is subject to high G side loads. A dynometer is not for testing an entire system. It's a way to conviently isolate parts of the system so that one part at a time can be optimized. It's impossible to engineer ANYTHING with different sections changing all over the place at the same time. The question Rusty stated was, "what effect does water flow have in a real engine?" You can't reliably answer this question in flight, because everything else is changing around it. But with a dyno, you install a variable speed water pump that circulates water through a static system (same radiator, engine and fan). With a graph of the results you have some authority to state that reducing/increasing the flow will have such-n-such an effect. If you increase/reduce the flow, you will have to compensate for the *effect* elsewhere.