Return-Path: Received: from relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.165] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP id 768689 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 03 Mar 2005 13:37:14 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.133.182.165; envelope-from=canarder@frontiernet.net Received: from filter03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.70]) by relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8607537049D for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2005 18:36:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.165]) by filter03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 17754-08-38 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2005 18:36:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (67-137-89-39.dsl2.cok.tn.frontiernet.net [67.137.89.39]) by relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD61137049B for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2005 18:36:29 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <42275923.3060803@frontiernet.net> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 12:36:19 -0600 From: Jim Sower User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EWP Test Results/DRAG References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0509-4, 03/03/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net kenpowell@comcast.net wrote: > I think Al and Bill have been trying to say this politely but .... > We all agree that the EWP flows less than the standard pump by alot > (maybe only half to 1/3th as much?). That's OK. But if you have less > flow then the radiator MUST be larger for the engine to obtain equal > cooling. >>> I thought less flow might be partially / substantially compensated for by greater dT you would achieve from slower flow through the same radiator. Is this not significant? > This equates to more drag. Now does the EWP save more energy than the > ~3HP the mechanical pump uses even when the extra cooling drag in > factored? In other words, does the EWP save 3HP worth of cooling > drag? I suspect that the mechanical pump is more effecient but can't > prove it. Bill, Al, Ed and some of the engineers can probably give us > a good idea though (and have). No numbers here, I'm just trying to > piont out the real issue - energy expended at WOT, cruise, and climb. >