Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #12668
From: rijakits <rijakits@cwpanama.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] PM alternator/generator with EWP
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 16:05:51 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Again, my question:
From where do you have the idea, that belts are the major prolblem?

Thomas J.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernest Christley" <echristley@nc.rr.com>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 2:33 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] PM alternator/generator with EWP


> Per the discussion of breaking belts...
>
> Belts are needed for two things, the alternator and the water pump.  But
> if we replace the water pump can we get rid of the belt?
>
> Has anyone considered replacing the crank angle sensor with a PM
> alternator/generator?
>
> The things are relative simple (a can of coiled wire with some magnets
> on a spinning shaft in the middle), but what effect would a spinning
> magnet have on the hall effect sensor that drives the ignition system?
>
> I've been looking at this a while.  It looks like a hole could be tapped
> and threaded into the top of the crank angle sensor shaft.  A generator
> with a threaded shaft would be screwed into that, properly oriented
> threads insuring that the generator shaft will never come unscrewed, and
> some straps on the housing to keep it from spinning.
>
> A 35A generator, is < 500W would only need a few ft.oz. of retaining
> force at 6000RPM.
>
> The front pulley could be replaced with the same sort of installation.
>
> Another consideraton.  Alternators have a heavy shell, bearings and
> mounting because there is a substantial side loads and vibrations
> derived from the belt.  A gear driven generator can be much lighter,
> with just a sheet metal can for a housing.
>
> I've got a number for an electrical engineer who is going to help me
> work out the feasability and sizing for this application, but I'd like
> the thoughts of anyone on the list.
>
>
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