Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.7) with ESMTP id 794755 for rob@logan.com; Sun, 03 Jun 2001 19:09:14 -0400 Received: from smtpb.gateway.net ([208.230.117.231]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71175U5500L550S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:25:26 -0400 Received: from D (1Cust88.tnt3.coeur-dalene.id.da.uu.net [63.15.161.88]) by smtpb.gateway.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA06487 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:33:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000d01c0ec75$5ab1bba0$58a10f3f@F.Schaefer> Reply-To: "dfs" Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com From: "dfs" To: "Lancair list" Subject: CS prop on 235 Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 14:37:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> To Bill, N7WB: After the first couple hunred hours on my 235 with fixed pitch wood props (I tried two different makes) I switched to a MT electric CS unit. I wouldn't trade it for anything! Here are just some of the reasons: 1. To get a reasonable cruise prop, the pitch was so high (about 74 -78", if I remember) the best sea-level take-off RPM I ever saw with my Lyc O-235-L2C with the hi-compression pistons, was no more than 2350. I had more than my share of rejected take-offs in situations where I needed everthing I could get for take-off (high, hot and heavy). Obviously, the low RPM didn't allow the engine to produce enough HP at the time where it was needed most (HP [approx.] = Torque x RPM / 5200 ), resulting in some very "exciting" situations, but situations I would rather not have experienced! 2. Even with the relatively high pitch, to use the airframe's speed range, I needed to cruise at 2600+ RPM while I prefer to cruise at around 2500. A small gripe maybe, but a consideration, nonetheless. 3. Last, but not least, I had two wood props (from the same manufacturer) fail in use! One developed a 6 - 7 inch radial crack about 8 inches in from one tip, and it's replacement shed most of the rear lamination after just a few hours of use. Fortunately, it happened just as I was about to rotate for take-off and I aborted with nothing worse than needing clean shorts! The MT prop allows my engine to develop just under max RPM (my engine is placarded for 2800 max continuous and I get right at 2750 for take-off - I have an electronic tach with digital read-out so these numbers are quite accurate).Take-offs that were a real struggle with the wood props are now typically non-events. The only caveat with the MT electric prop is that the pitch change mechanism is a highly geared, small electric motor (most likely to keep the weight down) and as such, the prop reacts a bit slower than we're used to with a hydraulic prop. As a result, one has to be gentle with the throttle when bringing the power in, particularly on T &G's and go-arounds to keep from over-speeding the prop and engine. No big deal, you just have to take an extra couple of seconds when going to full throttle - it's easy to get used to. The hub and prop combination is somewhat heavier than the extension and wood prop - I think the paper work says the MT for the 235 weighs in around 27 pounds. My weight and balance is still acceptable without moving anything else around in the airplane. I do notice using a bit more nose-up trim on landing, of course, but the airplane is closer to mid-CG when I have a passenger and some luggage aboard. Hope this answers some of the questions posed. I think it's worth it if you can go this way. I'm at the Coeur d'Alene airport and a member of the Spokane EAA chapter. If you get over this way, stop in if you need more information. Dan Schaefer Early LNC2 N235SP Phone: 208-762-1104 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>