Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.7) with ESMTP id 791615 for rob@logan.com; Mon, 28 May 2001 01:06:17 -0400 Received: from trixie.carlsonhome.com ([24.5.200.224]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71175U5500L550S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 00:18:29 -0400 Received: from speed (192.168.0.5) by trixie.carlsonhome.com (Worldmail 1.3.167) for lancair.list@olsusa.com; 27 May 2001 21:25:52 -0700 From: "Jon Carlson" To: "LML" Subject: Carbon fiber crash/burn characteristics - any data? Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 21:25:52 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Hi all, Don't want to be depressing, but... I just saw the following video of a crash a couple days ago of the maiden voyage of a Lionheart experimental biplane made out of carbon composites: http://www.seattleinsider.com/partners/kirotv/news/2001/05/25/crash.html I have admittedly very little exposure to aircraft accidents, however, the rate of burn of the airplane is pretty surprising (shocking). I know I wouldn't want to be in that plane (especially trying to get any passengers like my little kids out) while it was burning. While I have no real knowledge of whether metal airplanes burn slower or not, if that rate of burn is DUE to the carbon, it seems a cautionary tale when considering a Lancair. So - the composite construction certainly didn't cause the crash, but would it have caused or enhanced the rate of burn? It could be that the Lionheart design fabricated in aluminum would've burned the same way. Hard to tell without extensive testing and data. Anyone know of any burn testing data that would actually show how carbon composites compare to aluminum (or other alternatives)? -Jon C. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>