Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.2) with ESMTP id 1024831 for rob@logan.com; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 13:19:56 -0500 Received: from siaag1ae.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.7]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 13:17:40 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag1ae.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.12) id NAA18776 for Lancair.list@olsusa.com; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 13:19:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 13:18:40 -0500 From: James Frantz Subject: Angle-of-Attack flap position sensing Sender: James Frantz To: Marve Kay Message-ID: <200201141318_MC3-EDDA-CE88@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Message text written by Marvin Kaye >could you post a note to the LML about the = flap position switch for the AOA, along with the reasoning for why it's o= k = to simply turn it on and switch to the flaps database when you put any = flaps in at all.< First we should point out that all AOA systems must take into account the= flap setting. When you change the flap setting you are in effect putting= a different airfoil on your aircraft with a different critical angle (stalling angle), a different best engine out glide, maximum endurance an= d etc. The AOA Professional and Sport use two databases to compute your AO= A, flaps up (the cruise database) and flaps down (the landing database). = These two data bases are built during the calibration to accurately gauge= AOA. In the flaps full up and down position your AOA is perfectably accurate and self compensating for gross weight, center of gravity, bank angle, temperature, altitude and everything else. To be 100% accurate fo= r all available flap settings, we would need an infinite number of data bas= es because there is an infinite number of flap settings for our Lancairs. O= f course this would be rather time consuming to build that many data bases into the AOA. Over many years of experimenting, we have found that two data bases works best and building 3 or 4 or more is liken to setting the= acceptable altitude deviations during a check ride to six inches. Nonetheless, we want to position the closure of the flap switch so that t= he results are conservative. Conservative means that if the angle warning i= s set to 15% above the critical angle for flaps up and down, the angle warning should activate at the same or higher margin above stall for all the inbetween flap settings. = For all those inbetween flap setting it would be most conservative to use= the flaps down data base. This may not seem logical at first until you understand how lift varies as the flaps are extended. As the flaps are extended the lift distribution along the wing span moves towards the fuselage leaving the outboard wing more lightly loaded. Since the pressu= re taps are located outboard of the flaps, for inbetween flap settings, the flaps down data base will give the most conservative AOA warning. Even I= have to think this through logically so don't be concerned if this seems backwards at first. = The AOA determines which database to use by constantly monitoring flap position via a simple micro switch which is either open or closed. So whe= n should that switch close? Switch closure by one-third flaps will work re= al well. This means that it would be proper for the switch to close anywher= e between one degree of flaps to one-third flaps. Once closed, it must remain closed through full flaps. It would not be conservative for the flap switch to close at the full flaps detent. Another and perhaps easier way to install the flap switch is to mechanically close the switch as the flaps reach their up detent. = Electrically the switch would have to be wired so that the contacts are open with the flaps up and closed when not. In this case, the COM lug of= the microswitch would be connected to a ground. The flap sensing wire fr= om the AOA would be connected to the NC lug. BTW, Kirk and Lancair have decided to install the AOA as standard equipme= nt in their most popular panel for obvious reasons. The Legacy builders should know that the wing comes with the basic AOA wing kit pre-installed= and that the AOA CPU is available pre-calibrated with a copy of Carsten's= data. The AOA Pro includes a gear warning system at no additional cost. = = I almost puked as I was reading the latest issue of Sport Aviation. It featured an airspeed warning buzzer system. We have been trying over man= y years now to remind pilots that stall/spins occur at nearly any airspeed!= = This new product undermines some of that effort. Using airspeed or attitu= de to gauge when an aircraft will stall accounts for nearly half of all spor= t pilot fatalities and the Lancair is not atypical. Contact with the ground at shallow angles (landing) is almost always survivable, contact at steep angles (stall/spin) is not. Jim Frantz (952) 474-4154 = = >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://members.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please remember that purchases from the Builders' Bookstore assist with the management of the LML. Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>