Return-Path: Received: from wind.imbris.com ([216.18.130.7]) by ns1.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70783U4500L450S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:48:21 -0500 Received: from regandesigns.com (cda131-75.imbris.com [216.18.131.75]) by wind.imbris.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1AGueh29707 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 08:56:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A8556A0.A20C92CD@regandesigns.com> Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 08:56:32 -0600 From: Brent Regan To: Lancair List Subject: RE: Lance Neibauer's comments on nylaflow X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Lance is correct in that per the FARs the Nylaflow tubing is OK to use based on the surge pressure verses the rated pressure of the tubing. For all the **anticipated** loads and operating conditions, the design is sound. Just like the Tacoma Narrows Bridge. It is the un-anticipated conditions that worry me. Age, heat, chemical degreasers, kinks, parking brakes, nicks, ham fisted A&Ps, second owners, FOD ejected from the wheel (al la Concord), panic stops and abrasions can singularly or in combination cause that little piece of unarmored plastic to surrender to the stresses imposed. Brakes are critical to flight safety. We practice dead stick landings. We practice emergency gear extensions. We don't practice "no brake" landings. Why? It may be because that if your brakes fail on the landing roll, you are going for a ride and there is little or nothing you can do to prevent it. My concern for this comes from the desire for preventing the FIRST brake failure. If the Nylaflow was a little weaker and there were a few failures, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Just after I bought my kit I visited the factory to take pictures of the then under construction pressurized prototype. To my dismay I saw that the hydraulic system was using spool type hydraulic valves to actuate the gear and flaps. In recent personal experience I became acutely aware that these valves were VERY sensitive to contamination. A metal chip the size of a sand grain could jam the valve. Not to mention that the valves required that the electrical system was also functional to operate. I marched up to Lance's office, introduced myself and went on to say that it was not a question of "if" there would be a gear up landing with those valves but "how many". Since I try not to complain without offering a solution, on my return home I purchased a sample of a robust and compact manual valve, sketched up a hydraulic schematic and shipped them to Lance. I was very relieved to learn that the solenoid valves were deleted from the design. The current design is lighter, cheaper and more far reliable than the original. The only one who wasn't pleased with the change was Ross who had to tear out hours and hours of fine craftsmanship in order to make the change. Sorry Ross;) Regarding the main gear pivot pin that must be removed and reinstalled to change the brake line, if you are unable to press a pin out of a bore an then reinstall it successfully, you have no business building an airplane. Even if you do damage the pivot pin you can still buy a new one. One last question for Lance and then I'll shut up. Will the FAA let you use Nylaflow on the brakes of the retractable gear Columbia? D H Instruments 800 414 9990 www.dhinstruments.com Regards. Brent Regan PS. Brent alert! With three Brents on the list I would recommend also using last names to avoid confusion;) BR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>