Return-Path: Received: from marvkaye.olsusa.com ([207.30.195.55]) by ns1.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-64832U3500L350S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:35:09 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20001111213925.043f1c70@olsusa.com> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:42:53 -0500 To: lancair.list@olsusa.com From: Marvin Kaye Subject: Mogas X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Posted on behalf of BILL HANNAHAN : Here is an article I wrote for my EAA Chapter newsletter a few years ago, forward it to your newsletter editor if you like. 10/18/95 I am writing to describe an interesting experience involving the use of auto fuel in hot weather I had while attending the Copper State fly-in at Phoenix this year. I was flying a Lancair 320 equipped with a Lycoming O-360 A1A (carbureted 180hp) engine. It has a 23gal fuel tank in each wing and a 10 gal. header tank. It has a four-position fuel selector valve, one for each tank plus off. Each wing tank has its own electric boost pump mounted on a rib a few inches from the outlet of the tank finger strainer. The outlet from the selector valve is plumbed to a gascolator located in the nose gear tunnel. The gascolator outlet is routed to a flow transducer mounted in a separate compartment just behind the firewall which is vented to the nose gear tunnel. These locations were selected to keep as much of the fuel system as possible out of the engine and passenger compartments. The outlet from the flow transducer penetrates the firewall and a firesleeved hose conducts the fuel to the engine driven fuel pump. Another firesleeved hose conducts the fuel to the carburetor. For the last 120 hrs. I have been experimenting with the use of premium unleaded auto fuel. This fuel is approved for use in this engine through Peterson and EAA STC's. I keep 100LL in the right wing tank and premium unleaded in the other two tanks. I always use the right tank for takeoff and climb, then switch to the unleaded. I flew down to Phoenix Friday and parked on the ramp at Williams. Temperatures were well above normal with highs near 100F Friday and Saturday. I took off Saturday afternoon about 2:30 after a long taxi to runway 30 center. Outside air temperature was very hot and engine temps were high but in the green. Takeoff and climb were normal. About 50 miles west near Buckeye at 8000 ft. with CHT about 190C and oil temp. 98C, I switched to the left tank containing auto fuel. After a minute fuel pressure began to drop while indicated flow increased somewhat. I have seen this many times before, and believe it is due to the resistance of the flowmeter causing bubbles to form in the warm fuel passing through the flow meter resulting in an artificially high flow reading. In my previous experience the engine driven pump could usually maintain 1-2 psi, sufficient for normal operation, but this time pressure dropped essentially to zero and the engine began to run rough. I hit the left boost pump resulting in an immediate surge on the flow meter, the engine smoothed out, and after a few seconds to fill the carburetor, fuel pressure and flow returned to normal. A typical example of vapor lock up to this point, then the engine began to roughen up again, which got my undivided attention. I scanned the instruments for signs of a problem, fuel pressure, fuel flow, oil pressure, manifold pressure, mags on, everything looked normal, the fire triangle was complete, the engine should be running, but within a few seconds it died completely, just windmilling. I eased the mixture out and the engine surged for a second and then began to die, I pushed it in slowly and the engine surged for a couple of seconds then died. I repeated this cycle several times but could not find a mixture position where the engine would run continuously. After several cycles survival instinct overcame engineering curiosity and I switched back to the 100LL, after a few more cycles the engine smoothed out and ran normally. An hour later with things cooled off at 10,500' I switched back to the unleaded and it ran normally. Last spring I was flying with an RV4. We stopped at a small airport to visit a friend. After landing we taxied back the full length of the runway and out to the friends home, found he was not there, taxied back out and down the length of the runway again to launch. It was a warm day and after several minutes on the ground th engines were quite warm. The RV4 launched first, as he broke ground I started my run. As I lifted off and accelerated I noticed my friend low over the far end of the runway making puffs of black smoke and I was gaining on him more rapidly than normal. He angled for a freshly plowed field, landed and flipped in the soft dirt. He and his passenger were trapped in the plane, fortunately there was no fire and they escaped with substantial cuts and bruises, the plane was totaled. The investigation found nothing wrong with the engine or fuel system. I suspect the problem in both cases was unleaded auto gas boiling in the carburetor and surging through the float bowl vent into the induction system, flooding the engine. The surging action may be explained by the pressure changes induced in the induction system as the engine RPM changes. My plane has a ram air induction system with an air filter. The filter uses up some of the pressure generated by the inlet, about 0.5-1.0 in. HG depending on power setting. I suspect that when the mixture control is leaned out and the engine surges, pressure at the float bowl vent drops causing additional fuel to boil sustaining the surge briefly. As the fuel supply diminishes the engine slows down causing an increase in float bowl pressure, suppressing boiling and cutting off the engine fuel supply until the mixture control in pushed in. When the engine recovers on fuel flowing through the normal path, pressure at the float bowl vent drops again resulting in another surge of boiling. The same engine with another induction system might have a different response characteristic. The same engine on a test stand with no induction system may have a more benign response. There are some characteristics about my airplane that might make this phenomenon more likely. 1 It is tightly cowled and baffled. Air inlets are small, the baffling and oil cooler installations use almost all the air going through the cowl so that air temps below the engine are higher than for average installations. 2 Due to the high power to weight ratio I tend to use lower power settings than the engine would see in other applications resulting in lower fuel flow rates through the fuel pump and carburetor. Cruise climbing out of Phoenix settings were 1990RPM and 19.5" HG resulting in a fuel flow around 6.5 GPH. 3 The aircraft's long range allows the transport of high vapor pressure winter-gas to warm climates. There are also some characteristics that make this problem less likely in my airplane. 1 The aircraft is painted white resulting in minimum surface temperatures in direct sunlight. 2 The wing skins are made of two layers of fiberglass separated by a 1/4 in. Foam core. This core substantially reduces the heat rate through the skin. A nonwhite metal airplane with integral wing tanks could produce much higher fuel temperatures given the same circumstances. I do not believe that people should be prevented or discouraged from using auto fuel in their aircraft. There are several significant advantages including cleaner engines, less plug fouling, cleaner oil, lower cost and reduced lead in the environment. People do need to know that this phenomenon exists and how to prevent it. I think that keeping a supply of undiluted 100LL on board for takeoff and climb is one way. It also provides the valves and valve seats with a fresh protective patina of lead at the beginning of each flight. There may be modifications that would also help. PS 11/00 I now keep 100LL in the header tank with mo gas in both wings, and use the header for takeoff. Should you switch back to 100LL for landing? There are reasonable arguments for both sides. I used to switch back to the 100LL for each landing but worried about a selector valve failure between tanks or moisture condensation sloshing down to the pick up point and flooding the carb with water. Most landings follow a cruise decent at low power, engine and fuel temps are low and if there is plenty of fuel in the tank I now leave the selector alone. If I am planning touch and go's I switch to 100LL, I also switch after an unexpected go around as temps will be higher on the next approach. After landing the fuel selector is turned off to burn the mo gas out of the carburetor taxiing back to the hangar. For the next start select the header tank to flush the residual mo gas into the float bowl. After engine start the fuel selector is switched off while taxiing to the runup area burning the residual mo gas. The fuel selector is switched to the header tank prior to engine run-up and left there. Two years ago I insulated the fuel pump and float bowl with 1/2 inch closed-cell black foam (It came from a friend who did not know its source, possibly soundproofing from Spruce pn 42725), and have not had any vapor-lock or boiling problems since. The foam was tested by placing a piece of solder on a sample and melting it into a ball with a heat gun. The foam was not affected. A propane torch will burn it but when the torch was removed the fire extinguished. The fuel system components are liquid cooled and should be insulated, blast tubes are a waste of cooling air on these, but make sense for heat generating components such as mags vac pumps and alternators. Avoid methanol like the plague. What would I do different? 1 Install the flowmeter downstream of the engine driven fuel pump and insulate it. 2 Make the header location a baggage compartment for more storage space and CG adjustments. 3 Wet out the leading edge D-tubes. One D-tube would be connected to its main wing tank to make one large capacity tank. The other would be a separate tank for AV-gas. The engine and airframe have about 1400 hrs. since new. The engine has burned a lot of mo gas and seems to be in good shape. I clean the plugs every 200 hrs, need it or not. __________________________________________________ ===== BILL HANNAHAN WFHANNAHAN@YAHOO.COM __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>