Return-Path: Received: from wind.imbris.com ([216.18.130.7]) by ns1.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-64832U3500L350S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:21:18 -0400 Received: from regandesigns.com (nortel131-11.imbris.com [216.18.131.11]) by wind.imbris.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA48736 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 09:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <39F44AFA.DFEE85FA@regandesigns.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 09:28:10 -0500 From: Brent Regan To: Lancair List Subject: Re: TSIO-550 Heat vs.Fuel Consumption Revisited X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> To Zerbach, Bachman and Ahlstrom et al: Gentlemen, How about some real data? As Fred Moreno said "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof". Data has been promised on several occasions but never forthcoming. The anecdotal claims range wildly 10%, 29%, what is it today? The comments about aerodynamic improvements are valid, although polishing pits and then claiming a 0.2% speed improvement is a little silly. Were density altitude, temperature, humidity and pilot technique exactly the same? Is the pilot so experienced that he does not improve with every race? When I was racing there was another driver (and friend) that couldn't get under 2 minutes at Sears Point. I had him convinced that we were using a fuel additive from Australia that increased power 5% and agreed to let him have some for qualifying. I ceremoniously poured a quart in his fuel tank and we rocked the car to mix it. He turned a 1:58 in qualifying. The "additive" was just gasoline from our fuel drum in an oil can. QED Regarding detonation, detonation occurs when the heat from compression, radiation and conduction raise the temperature of a portion of the charge, that is near stoichiometric mixture, to the point where it combusts simultaneously and explosively, without an organized flame front. The resultant shock wave does travel at the local speed of sound to strike the inside of the combustion chamber. This event is the "knock" you may hear. Increasing the radiation with "mirrors" will decrease the detonation margin, increasing the likelihood of detonation. I believe that it is you who should read Fred's text books. The world is full of gullible people who will believe almost any claim. From diet pills to wrinkle cream to hair tonic to psychic friends to 100 mpg carburetors, all with testimonials of effectiveness and all false. If you are going to stand up and claim that you have advanced the art of engine development by 29% then you better have some proof. Proof is not anecdotal testimonials of uncontrolled tests. Proof, for example, would be side by side tests of identical engines with the only change being the ceramic coating. The tests would be done by a disinterested (read not financially tied) third party on a calibrated dynamometer. I understand that you are recalcitrant to conduct these tests as they will likely demonstrate that the improvements are an order of magnitude less than what you claim. An improvement of 1% to 3% is reasonable to expect and consistent with what I measured when I conducted back to back tests with identical engines on a calibrated dynamometer with the only difference being the coating. For you readers who are not familiar with how this works, right around now we should hear about: 1) All the evidence that exists but cannot be shared due to non-disclosure agreements, contracts, etc. 2) How the improvements are so obvious that they are clear to any fool. 3) How I must have an undisclosed motive for refusing to accept ceramics into my heart. 4) How the data will be available "shortly". I should also be receiving a private email threatening litigation (as Fred did). What fun. I did like the comparison of the coating to a mirror. Combined with the exhaust we officially have "smoke and mirrors". Regards Brent Regan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>