X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 07:16:22 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nschwmtas06p.mx.bigpond.com ([61.9.189.152] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTP id 7176262 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 04:11:05 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=61.9.189.152; envelope-from=john@jjts.net.au Received: from nschwcmgw07p ([61.9.190.167]) by nschwmtas06p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20140926081029.YKZB3884.nschwmtas06p.mx.bigpond.com@nschwcmgw07p> for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 08:10:29 +0000 Received: from [192.168.15.36] ([110.142.219.220]) by nschwcmgw07p with BigPond Outbound id vkAQ1o00r4luXCm01kASJK; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 08:10:29 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Os7NOlDt c=1 sm=1 a=6xIvA0WTx9AVOJiHBW+VeQ==:17 a=eZDB6TUA0y8A:10 a=mCSqThwqAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=jjqUt_clAAAA:8 a=z40nW2-jNgNZ2DgzcDkA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=rnYgdqcAs4AA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=HTgY_AHsKFOeQsW5:21 a=zHdJn20PBo4nvD88:21 a=rHd-GphFiYfrcykEURsA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=-HjSOQF6hTnIoUJE:21 a=Q1QdQY-Y0TijZK0i:21 a=0qWOemWIETzhlTQI:21 a=6xIvA0WTx9AVOJiHBW+VeQ==:117 User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.3.140616 X-Original-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 16:10:24 +0800 Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Continental starter adapter failure- Legacy From: John Smith X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List X-Original-Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: Continental starter adapter failure- Legacy References: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3494592627_2974556" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3494592627_2974556 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Ooops =AD sorry Clark =AD my prior message on the starter adapter should have read =B3Hi Clark=B2! Regards, John =20 John N G Smith Tel / fax: +61-8-9385-8891 Mobile: +61-409-372-975 Email: john@jjts.net.au From: John Date: Friday, 26 September 2014 4:07 pm To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Continental starter adapter failure- Legacy > Hi Kevin, >=20 > Sorry to hear you have this issue. >=20 > It happened to me about year ago. Unlike yourself, I had started with the > Iskra and then switched to the Skytec unit. >=20 > You=B9ve probably checked this, but if not =AD in the unlikely event that the > starter has failed, there is plug on the side of the Skytec starter body = which > you can remove and observe whether the sktec is in fact engaging or not. = Worth > a quick check if you haven=B9t done this. But =AD assuming the Skytec is fin= e, > read on! >=20 > You do not necessarily have to move the engine forward, or lift it up off= the > mount as I believe some have done =AD I didn=B9t have touch the engine mount= ing. > So =AD if you want to avoid dong this, you might want to try what I did =AD i= t > worked fine.=20 >=20 > The problem for us is that the adapter is fixed to the block with studs. = But > we do not have enough room to withdraw the adapter backwards and clear al= l of > the studs =AD I think was two that wouldn=B9t clear. I can=B9t recall which, bu= t > once you look at it, you=B9ll see which ones they are. So =AD I removed the > offending studs with a stud extractor =AD took a bit of doing as I assume t= he > studs are installed with super Loktite or similar, but they came out OK. > Withdrew the adapter, and my Lame fitted a new shaft and spring which luc= kily > for me was provided by TCM under a warranty claim. Meanwhile =AD removed th= e > other studs, and then reinstalled the adapter with a set of properly spec= =B9d > bolts (length etc critical of course) instead of the two above offending > studs. >=20 > If the adapter ever fails again =AD it will now be a very simple job to rem= ove > the starter adapter. >=20 > I guess I should caution that I don=B9t know if what I did is endorsed by T= CM =AD > it may be, but I don=B9t know; I did check with my LAME and he considered i= t > fine, but your call of course here! >=20 > Good luck! >=20 >=20 > Regards, >=20 > John >=20 > =20 > John N G Smith > Tel / fax: +61-8-9385-8891 > Mobile: +61-409-372-975 > Email: john@jjts.net.au --B_3494592627_2974556 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Ooops – sorry= Clark – my prior message on the starter adapter should have read R= 20;Hi Clark”!


Regards,

John
John N G Smith
Tel / fax:    +61-8-9385-8891
Mobile:      +61-409-372-975
Email:         john@jjts.net.au
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From= : John <john@jjts.net.au>= ;
Date: Friday, 26 September 2014 = 4:07 pm
To: Lancair Mailing List &= lt;lml@lancaironline.net>
<= span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Continental sta= rter adapter failure- Legacy

Hi Kevin,
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Sorry to hear you have this issue.

It happened to me about year ago. Unlike yourself, I had started with the= Iskra and then switched to the Skytec unit.

You= 217;ve probably checked this, but if not – in the unlikely event that = the starter has failed, there is plug on the side of the Skytec starter body= which you can remove and observe whether the sktec is in fact engaging or n= ot. Worth a quick check if you haven’t done this.  But – as= suming the Skytec is fine, read on!

You do not nece= ssarily have to move the engine forward, or lift it up off the mount as I be= lieve some have done  – I didn’t have touch the engine moun= ting.  So – if you want to avoid dong this, you might want to try= what I did – it worked fine. 

The probl= em for us is that the adapter is fixed to the block with studs. But we do no= t have enough room to withdraw the adapter backwards and clear all of the st= uds – I think was two that wouldn’t clear. I can’t recall = which, but once you look at it, you’ll see which ones they are.  = So – I removed the offending studs with a stud extractor – took = a bit of doing as I assume the studs are installed with super Loktite or sim= ilar, but they came out OK. Withdrew the adapter, and my Lame fitted a new s= haft and spring which luckily for me was provided by TCM under a warranty cl= aim. Meanwhile – removed the other studs, and then reinstalled the ada= pter with a set of properly spec’d bolts (length etc critical of cours= e) instead of the two above offending studs.

If the= adapter ever fails again – it will now be a very simple job to remove= the starter adapter.  

I guess I should cauti= on that I don’t know if what I did is endorsed by TCM – it may b= e, but I don’t know; I did check with my LAME and he considered it fin= e, but your call of course here!

Good luck!


Regards,

John
John N G Smith
Tel / fax:    +61-8-9385-8891
Mobile:      +61-409-372-975
Email:         john@jjts.net.au
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