X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:45:08 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nk11p08mm-asmtp002.mac.com ([17.158.58.247] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTPS id 7117117 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:35:22 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=17.158.58.247; envelope-from=gw5@me.com Received: from [192.168.0.9] ([71.77.249.52]) by nk11p08mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NAZ00AQC1XXW370@nk11p08mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 15:34:47 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.27,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-08-27_05:2014-08-27,2014-08-27,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1408270179 From: George Wehrung Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_B85ED037-F99D-45FF-8BE3-C143DDF93151" X-Original-Message-id: <4F1EEDA7-0EE0-40EE-95B8-9E3F17D2F075@me.com> MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [LML] TRAIN OR DIE here it is again, again PART 2 X-Original-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:34:45 -0400 References: X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) --Apple-Mail=_B85ED037-F99D-45FF-8BE3-C143DDF93151 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I know it's generally considered ill to speak of the dead, however in = the interest if aviation safety, it's the only way we can move forward.=20= When I mull this one over I can only think of a few likely excuses one = might come up with to not take transition training.=20 No time? Not a very good excuse and one that I can't fathom a reason.=20 Money? If one can afford to purchase and operate this plane, they = should be able to afford the transition training. Aviation is expensive = and it's no place to be frugal.=20 Arrogance, Ignorance and Hubris. I believe as pilots we all exhibit some = portion of all three of these personality or behavioral traits. For = most of they manifest themselves as confidence and or swagger in our = step.=20 Sometimes they may negatively appear in a crewed environment where two = large egos have a tough time fitting into the cockpit.=20 Generally we keep these in check by receiving evaluations of our = piloting skills with training and check rides.=20 Just a few random thoughts George Sent from my iPhone On Aug 23, 2014, at 7:59, PETER WILLIAMS = wrote: > PART II >=20 > People who knew Steve noted that he was a risk taker with active = hobbies such as scuba diving, surfing, motorcycling, and off-road car = racing. These are not inherently dangerous per se, but it=92s not a = Bingo game or bird watching. He seriously injured himself and totaled an = Extra 300 when the ground intervened at the bottom of a loop. That brush = with mortality might have encouraged a more conservative approach=97but = apparently it did not. > [EVEN A HIGHLY EXPERIENCED PILOT] > Steve was a highly experienced pilot with an estimated 3,600 hours = total time, including a fair amount in turbine aircraft but only about = 13 hours in the turbine IV-TP. He resisted getting transition training = in the IV-TP. > There=92s a strong case to be made for transition training. Pilots = involved in accidents generally have less experience in make and model, = often despite high total time. >=20 > AND I ONLY CAN WISH >=20 > The NTSB noted that the FAA had issued a warning letter to operators = in 2009:=20 >=20 > =93The notice indicated that while Lancairs represented a little over = 3 percent of the amateur-built experimental aircraft fleet, they = contributed to 16 percent of all amateur-built fatal aircraft accidents = in the prior 11 months=85=94=20 >=20 > Let me point out Lancair is not the only high performance experimental = aircraft with aggressive stall characteristics. The FAA had also = proposed a special training requirement as has been done on several = other aircraft that had relatively high accident involvements. That has = yet to be enacted. >=20 >=20 > by AOPA --Apple-Mail=_B85ED037-F99D-45FF-8BE3-C143DDF93151 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252
I know it's generally considered ill to speak = of the dead, however in the interest if aviation safety, it's the only = way we can move forward. 

When I mull this = one over I can only think of a few likely excuses one might come up with = to not take transition training. 

No time? = Not a very good excuse and one that I can't fathom a = reason. 

Money?  If one can afford to = purchase and operate this plane, they should be able to afford the = transition training. Aviation is expensive and it's no place to be = frugal. 

Arrogance, Ignorance and Hubris. = I believe as pilots we all exhibit some portion of all three of these = personality or behavioral traits.  For most of they manifest = themselves as confidence and or swagger in our = step. 
Sometimes they may negatively appear in a crewed = environment where two large egos have a tough time fitting into the = cockpit. 

Generally we keep these in check = by receiving evaluations of our piloting skills with training and check = rides. 

Just a few random = thoughts

George



= Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 23, 2014, at 7:59, PETER = WILLIAMS <peterpawaviation@hotmail.com<= /a>> wrote:

PART II

People who knew Steve noted that he was = a risk taker with active=20 hobbies such as scuba diving, surfing, motorcycling, and off-road = car=20 racing. These are not inherently dangerous per se, but it=92s not a = Bingo=20 game or bird watching. He seriously injured himself = and totaled an Extra 300 when the ground intervened at the bottom of a loop. That brush with mortality might have encouraged a more conservative approach=97but=20 apparently it did not.
[EVEN A HIGHLY EXPERIENCED = PILOT]
Steve was a highly experienced pilot with = an estimated 3,600 hours=20 total time, including a fair amount in turbine aircraft but only about=20= 13 hours in the turbine IV-TP. He resisted getting transition training=20= in the IV-TP.
There=92s a strong case to be made for transition training. Pilots=20= involved in accidents generally have less experience in make and model,=20= often despite high total time.

AND I ONLY CAN = WISH

The NTSB noted that the FAA had issued a warning letter = to operators in=20 2009:

=93The notice indicated that while Lancairs represented = a little=20 over 3 percent of the amateur-built experimental aircraft fleet, they=20 contributed to 16 percent of all amateur-built fatal aircraft accidents=20= in the prior 11 months=85=94

Let me point out Lancair is not = the only high=20 performance experimental aircraft with aggressive stall characteristics. The FAA had also proposed a special training requirement as has been=20 done on several other aircraft that had relatively high accident=20 involvements. That has yet to be enacted.


by  AOPA
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