X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.69] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTP id 6827667 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 14 Apr 2014 14:22:38 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.69; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=N1DAyMyWPbQzJlyv0M9BBFpVX2I8ht3Hp3RCZngGCpmCMBCUIxFPRnXT5hBwGpb7; h=Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [71.169.190.81] (helo=[192.168.1.24]) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1WZlW6-0003y4-PX for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 14 Apr 2014 14:22:03 -0400 From: Colyn Case Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-32-433211062 Subject: Re: [LML] IPAD for THOUGHT--take two with you Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 14:22:02 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Message-Id: <6F285FC7-F92E-4BE4-81F4-F64680656A84@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-ELNK-Trace: 63d5d3452847f8b1d6dd28457998182d7e972de0d01da940b5863d125c3e47537aa8de81781766da350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 71.169.190.81 --Apple-Mail-32-433211062 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii good idea. a variant is to have foreflight on your iphone too. Along the recharge path, you can get a battery to plug the ipad into = from Sporty's. Some people are now advertising 28V -> USB cigarette = lighter chargers also. I'm not a fan of big lead/acid batteries on my side of the firewall. = Had a friend get smoked out in a T210 from a battery gone wild. He = made it but it wasn't fun. Colyn On Apr 14, 2014, at 1:04 PM, PETER WILLIAMS wrote: hi there DO YOU RELY ON AN ipad FOR NAVIGATION? i do, and on long trips with hard IFR at the end of the trip.=20 i keep in the plane a charged 12volt Car Starting Battery with a = provision for using a cigarette plug to charge the ipad.=20 i have found that i can more or less maintain the ipad charge; but not = increase the ipad charge. Thus, while addressing this problem, i had had an epiphany; why not a = second ipad. i use the ipad for approach plates and VFR charts and most IFR plates. Note that much of my flying is on the east coast, from New England to = the bottom of Florida and i retain 2 Charts, NE SE East Coast Jepp = chart subscription. but if i had a ipad failure, i would have an increased load at a time = that the work load was already increasing. Yes, i can get information from the GNS 530. but why not have = redundancy. THINK OF IT THIS WAY: we build our airplanes with redundant NavComs because we assume that = having a back up is a safety feature ergo, I HAVE PURCHASED A SECOND IPAD. it will stay charged and powered down as a backup in case of a failure = or a low battery condition. peter --Apple-Mail-32-433211062 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii good idea.
a variant is to have foreflight on = your iphone too.
Along the recharge path, you can get a battery to = plug the ipad into from Sporty's.   Some people are now advertising = 28V -> USB cigarette lighter chargers = also.

I'm not a fan of big lead/acid batteries = on my side of the firewall.   Had a friend get smoked out in a T210 = from a battery gone wild.   He made it but it wasn't = fun.

Colyn

On Apr 14, = 2014, at 1:04 PM, PETER WILLIAMS wrote:

hi = there

DO YOU = RELY ON AN ipad FOR NAVIGATION?

 i do, and on long = trips with hard IFR at the  end of the trip. 

 i keep in the plane a charged 12volt Car = Starting Battery with a provision for using a cigarette plug to charge = the ipad. 
i have = found that i can more or less maintain the ipad charge; but not increase = the ipad charge.

Thus, while addressing this = problem, i had had an epiphany; why = not a second ipad.

i use the ipad for approach = plates and VFR charts and most IFR plates.

Note that much of my flying is on the east coast, = from New England to the bottom of Florida and i retain 2 Charts,  = NE SE East Coast Jepp chart subscription.

but if i had a ipad failure, i would have an increased load at = a time that the work load was already increasing.

Yes, i can get information = from the GNS 530. but why not have redundancy.

THINK OF IT THIS = WAY:

we build our airplanes with = redundant NavComs because we assume that having a back up is a safety = feature
ergo,

I HAVE PURCHASED A SECOND = IPAD.

it will stay charged and powered down as a backup in case of a = failure or a low battery condition.

peter

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