X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 07:50:22 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from col0-omc3-s7.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.145] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTP id 6820526 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 07:04:23 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.55.34.145; envelope-from=peterpawaviation@hotmail.com Received: from COL129-W61 ([65.55.34.135]) by col0-omc3-s7.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 9 Apr 2014 04:03:48 -0700 X-TMN: [oyfWtT26fwcrThvjP/o495ZSQgew3pf8] X-Originating-Email: [peterpawaviation@hotmail.com] X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: peterpawaviation@hotmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_73fb6a6d-fad5-45ad-8649-b84cbc72d15d_" From: PETER WILLIAMS X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: RE: [LML] Re: GEAR WON'T COME DOWN- PART ONE X-Original-Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 07:03:48 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Apr 2014 11:03:48.0382 (UTC) FILETIME=[61FF0BE0:01CF53E3] --_73fb6a6d-fad5-45ad-8649-b84cbc72d15d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi there NUTS have you ever done a stall in a Lancair IV?? I had Len Fox do an evaluation of my Lancair IV before i flew it. i wanted = to know what i had or didn't HAD my IVP rotates 110 degrees in either direction=2C after the stall. not some= thing to mess with. =20 and by a "deep" stall=2C i assume that you mean a power on stall. GOD NO. INSTEAD STAY FOCUSED AND MOVE ON. OR now if you had stalled your Lancair IV forty or fifty times and knew what t= o expect (you would be a test pilot) by the way=2C Don Goetz crashed 27 times in various airplanes. AND When you get on the ground alive=2C think about the $20=2C000 part that cos= ts $60.00=2C that would have automatically put you nose gear down THE IDEA IS TO BE SAFE AND PRACTICAL IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION=2C NOT CRAZY peter To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue=2C 8 Apr 2014 09:19:47 -0400 From: vtailjeff@aol.com Subject: [LML] Re: GEAR WON'T COME DOWN- PART ONE In what model? IV? Not a good idea...... Jeff Sent from my iPad On Apr 8=2C 2014=2C at 5:13 AM=2C John Cooper wro= te: =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Matt-- =0A= =20 =0A= In the olden days=2C Don Goetz reported that he did something=0A= similar to what you suggested=2C only I don't think it was=0A= necessarily a stall=3B He just pulled up into a nose-high attitude=0A= until the airspeed bled off=2C then pushed over to let gravity lock= =0A= the NLG down. It seems like having an AoA system would help to=0A= keep one from stalling during that maneuver. =0A= =20 =0A= --John =0A= =20 =0A= On 4/8/2014 6:00 AM=2C Lancair Mailing List wrote: =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Subject:=0A= =0A= Re: [LML] GEAR WON'T COME DOWN- PART ONE=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= From:=0A= =0A= Matt =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Date:=0A= =0A= 4/7/2014 7:47 AM=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= To:=0A= =0A= lml@lancaironline.net=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =20 =0A= =0A= =0A= What about climbing to some high altitude and doing a steep=0A= stall in the hopes of reducing the forward motion of the plane=0A= so the nose gear will come down and lock over center. =0A= =0A= =0A= =20 =0A= =0A= =0A= = --_73fb6a6d-fad5-45ad-8649-b84cbc72d15d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi there


NUTS

<= /font>have you ev= er done a stall in a Lancair IV??

I had Len Fox do an evaluation of my Lancair IV before i flew = it. i wanted to know what i had or didn't HAD

my IVP rotates 110 degrees in either direction=2C a= fter the stall. not some thing to mess with.
 =3B =3B
and by a "deep" stall=2C i assume that = =3B you mean a power on stall. GOD NO.

INSTEAD STAY FOCUSED AND MOVE ON.

OR
now if you had stalled your Lancair IV forty or fifty times an= d knew what to expect (you would be a te= st pilot)
= by the way=2C Don Goetz =3B crashed 27 times in various airplanes.

AND

When you get on the ground alive=2C think abo= ut the $20=2C000 part that costs $60.00=2C that would have automatically pu= t you nose gear down

TH= E IDEA IS TO BE SAFE AND PRACTICAL IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION=2C NOT CRAZY
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peter

To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Tue=2C 8 Apr 20= 14 09:19:47 -0400
From: vtailjeff@aol.com
Subject: [LML] Re: GEAR WON= 'T COME DOWN- PART ONE

In what model? IV? Not a good idea......=

Jeff

Sent from my iPad

On Ap= r 8=2C 2014=2C at 5:13 AM=2C John Cooper <=3Bsnopercod@comporium.net>=3B wrote:

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Matt--
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=0A= In the olden days=2C Don Goetz reported that he did something=0A= similar to what you suggested=2C only I don't think it was=0A= necessarily a stall=3B He just pulled up into a nose-high attitude=0A= until the airspeed bled off=2C then pushed over to let gravity lock= =0A= the NLG down. It seems like having an AoA system would help to=0A= keep one from stalling during that maneuver.
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=0A= --John
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=0A= On 4/8/2014 6:00 AM=2C Lancair Mailing List wrote:
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What about climbing to some high altitude and doing a steep=0A= stall in the hopes of reducing the forward motion of the plane=0A= so the nose gear will come down and lock over center. =3B=0A=
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