X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 07:47:59 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm12-vm2.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([216.109.114.241] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTPS id 6815424 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 05 Apr 2014 13:16:26 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.109.114.241; envelope-from=gbfitz@swbell.net Received: from [66.196.81.155] by nm12.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Apr 2014 17:15:50 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.99] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Apr 2014 17:15:50 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp119.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Apr 2014 17:15:50 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 366555.80406.bm@smtp119.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: UI.IssIVM1mAaavCXzV9yvZ_bmDiEcW2XEQq4NJ.IPe.hq9 rp8k8TBQ7zEXG10Nmk23bWvAub0Jk8FfuhL32WWqFgOGVmwIG8sJefpVnoQ7 MDuO0vMsR.KATPJ9h96fJXOUuqMB6h4S8f.59rCyIgqGllL1GHoK8lgMIomd pxhxxEgRCm.aPwRW8rol7imBcuqCVTkz3m.H.iGPkjQ1GQbpV2MmpVvfZ24Q zMYjv7rOOGIxBV2RxeMK8SdMppQeAqAaN90FZED3ygB3_JGJGJOi4rL8ObDT WtLzXQs8.meRavUgqwR21U6ONs1eQ_P8VNYZDi4kwO_BYmHg.CcFUfsjlpqA WytGb7yYcoUqGY_ToyQgvYX1IDQt.oJnD61wlAmvVL_zl5eGk_YoCb6UkfBZ hFW1XSc1CUuovw.uoOdNsMWcvw6890jr8MgRrT9nkUdzB7Dntbf_6jdp9qt9 tB_l.Dx4M8JYmgMq51OSo3nK.1eI1octo7DVTHbfai7aNpeb8.Dz8TcohIOV lYL0OFGZT1AlHlYFSYiM_tHQPFVBi86khY3Oz5W702sXd8GqgXKAp X-Yahoo-SMTP: YDcEmEeswBCQ9VCECdJgJSdIOsUDlolGAbHYYIoo X-Rocket-Received: from MONSTERGARAGE76 (gbfitz@99.122.238.59 with plain [98.138.84.52]) by smtp119.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 05 Apr 2014 17:15:50 +0000 UTC From: "Gary Fitzgerald" X-Original-To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Microwave current draw X-Original-Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2014 12:15:47 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <008101cf50f2$b013a960$103afc20$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0082_01CF50C8.C73DA160" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac9QELfG+aT2G2JpQ+y0JW8o/ohQqQA4MXDA Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0082_01CF50C8.C73DA160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, once he said he had an LNC2 with a forward CG problem I knew = something was fishy. =20 Gary Fitzgerald LNC2 ~70% St. Charles, MO Looking for a good deal on=20 a rebuildable or used (I)O-360 =20 =20 From: vtailjeff@aol.com [mailto:vtailjeff@aol.com]=20 Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 9:18 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Microwave current draw =20 Note the date on Tim's original post...April Fools Day... =20 sitting here LMAO ;)!!!!! =20 Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Jack Morgan To: lml Sent: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 7:36 am Subject: [LML] Microwave current draw Hi Tim:=20 =20 If the inverter is really delivering 1100 watts to the oven then it is = drawing 85 amps or so from your 14 volt system (over 100 amps if the = voltage falls to 11 volts). Suggest you check carefully if the = wiring/breaker and engine monitor are both up to that current delivery. = You will obviously run the battery down fairly quickly even if the = alternator will support 60 amps continuous. =20 Jack Morgan =20 On Apr 2, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Lancair Mailing List = wrote: From: Tim J=C3=B8rgensen < tj@yacht-pool.dk> Subject: LNC2 wiring issues Date: April 1, 2014 at 8:57:04 AM EDT To: lml@lancaironline.net Instead of adding useless lead in the tail cone, I decided to cure a = fwd. CG problem with the installation of a more useful microwave oven in = the luggage compartment. The CG problem is somewhat fixed now, but I = seem to have traded it for an electrical problem. I found a relatively small portable micro wave on the internet and made = a fixed installation for it. It is a 230v unit, but I have just added a = 14v to 230v inverter, which seems to work just fine. At first everything = worked flawlessly, but recently the alternator breaker has started = popping ever more often and is seems related to use of the oven. If I heat something small, like a single corn dog, there is no problem = but if I heat larger objects like a turkey leg, the engine monitor cuts = out in an alternating pattern for a while and then the alternator = breaker pops. But, then again, maybe that is due to the higher wattage = needed??? I am afraid my 60 amp alternator is not quite up to the job or should I = just install a heavier circuit breaker? The oven is labelled "CE 230v = 1080w". =20 Regards Tim Jorgensen 360MKII in flight testing =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0082_01CF50C8.C73DA160 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yeah, once he said he had an LNC2 with a forward CG problem I knew = something was fishy.

 

Gary Fitzgerald

LNC2 ~70%

St. Charles, MO

Looking for a good deal on

a rebuildable or used (I)O-360

 

 

From:= = vtailjeff@aol.com [mailto:vtailjeff@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, = April 04, 2014 9:18 AM
To: = lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: Re: [LML] Microwave current = draw

 

N= ote the date on Tim's original post...April Fools = Day...

&= nbsp;

s= itting here LMAO ;)!!!!!

&= nbsp;

J= eff

-= ----Original Message-----
From: Jack Morgan <jmorgan1023@comcast.net>To: lml <lml@lancaironline.net>
Se= nt: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 7:36 am
Subject: [LML] Microwave current = draw

H= i Tim:

<= o:p> 

I= f the inverter is really delivering 1100 watts to the oven then it is = drawing 85 amps or so from your 14 volt system (over 100 amps if the = voltage falls to 11 volts). Suggest you check carefully if the = wiring/breaker and engine monitor are both up to that current delivery. = You will obviously run the battery down fairly quickly even if the = alternator will support 60 amps = continuous.

<= o:p> 

J= ack Morgan

<= o:p> 

O= n Apr 2, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Lancair Mailing List <lml@lancaironline.net> = wrote:

<= br>

From: Tim J=C3=B8rgensen <tj@yacht-pool.dk><= /p>

Subject: LNC2 wiring issues

Date: April 1, 2014 at 8:57:04 AM EDT



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I= nstead of adding useless lead in the tail cone, I decided to = cure a fwd. CG problem with the installation of a more useful microwave = oven in the luggage compartment. The CG problem is somewhat fixed = now, but I seem to have traded it for an electrical problem.

I= found a relatively small portable micro wave on the internet and made a = fixed installation for it. It is a 230v unit, but I have just added a = 14v to 230v inverter, which seems to work just fine. At first everything = worked flawlessly, but recently the alternator breaker has started = popping ever more often and is seems related to use of the = oven.

I= f I heat something small, like a single corn dog, there is no problem = but if I heat larger objects like a turkey leg, the engine monitor cuts = out in an alternating pattern for a while and then the alternator = breaker pops. But, then again, maybe that is due to the higher wattage = needed???

I= am afraid my 60 amp alternator is not quite up to the job or should I = just install a heavier circuit breaker? The oven is labelled "CE = 230v 1080w".

 

R= egards

T= im Jorgensen

3= 60MKII in flight testing

<= o:p> 

<= o:p> 

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