X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 11:12:09 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from omr-d06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.109.203] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.8) with ESMTPS id 6759137 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 10:01:39 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.109.203; envelope-from=vtailjeff@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-mce02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mce02.mx.aol.com [172.29.27.208]) by omr-d06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 43C2A701C948F for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 10:01:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mnc004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mnc004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.106.205]) by mtaomg-mce02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B3CED38000093 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 10:01:03 -0500 (EST) References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Legacy canopy issues In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: vtailjeff@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8D105D1B27CE6D3_2E4_550F_webmailstg-m05.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38430-STANDARD Received: from 12.110.229.82 by webmailstg-m05.sysops.aol.com (64.12.225.56) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 04 Mar 2014 10:01:03 -0500 X-Original-Message-Id: <8D105D1B21429FB-2E4-169A@webmailstg-m05.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [12.110.229.82] X-Original-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 10:01:03 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d1bd05315eaaf04b2 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8D105D1B27CE6D3_2E4_550F_webmailstg-m05.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Bob Pastusek is working it from LOBO's end and Doug Meyer is pushing it at = Lancair. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: frederickemoreno To: lml Sent: Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:37 am Subject: [LML] Legacy canopy issues "Your airplane. Your life. Your choice." =20 ' Sorta. it's a fleet problem with outcomes affecting pilots in =3D The whole fleet....even different Lancair models. =20 We should have a fleet goal (all Lancairs) of getting the =3D Accident rate to something reasonable, then identify the biggest =3D Contributors to the accident rate and go after them. This may involve =3D Taking some actions beyond what it takes to get down to your personal =3D Risk tolerance.' =20 I concur with Colyn's comments. But ideas, initiative, and actions come fr= om individuals. =20 My frustration has been that my and other first attempts to get some commun= ity cooperation and action on this issue resulted in a massive...... =20 Silence. =20 =20 Brought to mind the expression "Denial is not a river in Egypt." =20 Hopefully this second attempt will work better. Apparently it already is.= =20 =20 I now understand that Lancair Marketing has asked for input to pass along t= o engineering for comment, and John Smith who is leading the latch effort, = at least here in Oz, has made contact with a letter of questions to be revi= ewed by Lancair engineering. With answers, John's team can finalize some d= esign options and them present in this forum for consideration and comment.= I direct you who are concerned and want to learn to review his interesti= ng quantitative analysis presented in this forum some weeks ago. It has al= so gone to Lancair as part of the information he has supplied. =20 Progress.... At last. Hopefully positive forward motion can recommence o= n this issue. With a bit of momentum and energy addition from the group an= d Lancair, perhaps we can move forward to results and eliminate some potent= ial accidents.=20 =20 Fred Moreno ----------MB_8D105D1B27CE6D3_2E4_550F_webmailstg-m05.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Bob Pastusek is working it from LOBO's end and Doug Meyer is pushing i= t at Lancair.
 
Jeff
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: frederickemoreno <frederickemoreno@gmail.com>
To: lml <lml@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tue, Mar 4, 2014 8:37 am
Subject: [LML] Legacy canopy issues

"Your airplane.  Your life.  Your choice."
 
' Sorta.   it's a fleet problem with outcomes affecting= pilots in =3D
The whole fleet....even different Lancair models.
 
 We should have a fleet goal (all Lancairs) of getting the =3D Accident rate to something reasonable, then identify the biggest =3D
Contributors to the accident rate and go after them.   This may i= nvolve =3D
Taking some actions beyond what it takes to get down to your personal =3D Risk tolerance.'
 
I concur with Colyn's comments.  But ideas, initiative, and actio= ns come from individuals.
 
My frustration has been that my and other fir= st attempts to get some community cooperation and action on this issue resu= lted in a massive......
 
Silence.  
 
Brought to mind the expression "Denial is not a river in Egypt."
 
Hopefully this second attempt will work better.  Apparently it al= ready is.
 
I now understand that Lancair Marketing has asked for input = to pass along to engineering for comment, and John Smith who is leading the= latch effort, at least here in Oz, has made contact with a letter of quest= ions to be reviewed by Lancair engineering.  With answers, John's team= can finalize some design options and them present in this forum for consid= eration and comment.   I direct you who are concerned and want to= learn to review his interesting quantitative analysis presented in this fo= rum some weeks ago.  It has also gone to Lancair as part of the inform= ation he has supplied.
 
Progress....  At last.   Hopefully positive forward mot= ion can recommence on this issue.  With a bit of momentum and energy a= ddition from the group and Lancair, perhaps we can move forward to results = and eliminate some potential accidents.
 
Fred Moreno
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