Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #67661
From: John Barrett <jbarrett@carbinge.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: RE: [LML] Re: IVP Jacks
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 07:40:35 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>

Glad you noticed that, Jeff,  and I should have mentioned that the bottom is tied to an anchor in the concrete in this photo.   It looks like it might just be hanging there and is not. 

 

I have since made a concrete hold down for the tail with wheels on the bottom.  As the plane goes up on the jacks, the tail moves in an arc fwd and aft so it is good to be able to move the hold down to stay underneath the tail.

 

There is a tool box on the nose in the photo and some lead shot bags as well because my airplane  is CG aft and there is not enough weight forward to keep the tail from wanting to drop without additional weight on the nose.

 

John

 

From: vtailjeff@aol.com [mailto:vtailjeff@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 9:52 AM
To: jbarrett@carbinge.com
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: IVP Jacks

 

Johnm

 

Your "tail support" looks rather unsteady. I have seen the tail both go up and down and move a bit during gear swings and people getting in an out... just saying. I made a tail stand out of a large metal tub, concrete and a harbor freight hydraulic cylinder. Too many airplanes have fallen off of jacks, including one IVP. Belt and suspenders.

 

Bes regards!

 

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: John Barrett <jbarrett@carbinge.com>
To: lml <lml@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Mon, Oct 28, 2013 11:37 am
Subject: [LML] Re: IVP Jacks

 Hi Greg,
 
I made my jacks from Harbor Freight hydraulic cylinders with flat bottoms
and welded up stands around them.  A lot of work and the cylinder hydraulics
don't hold up all that well.   Also they are not as stable as the expensive
commercial ones.  We were jacking up the plane outside for gear checks in
Redmond a couple years ago and light winds were really scary.  I only use
inside the hangar since then and have modified them to make them a little
more stable.  They are workable and now I'm pretty comfortable with them,
but investing in some good ones is not a bad alternative.  The aircraft  has
to go up so high and the jack points are close enough together that light
lateral forces will cause things to sway and wobble - makes me pucker
sometimes.  
 
The episode in the photo was on concrete apron that was not at all flat -
that added to the instability and was not a good plan.  
 
John Barrett
N31VP
 
 
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