Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #67647
From: Colyn Case <colyncase@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Noisy COM on low end freqs only....?
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 14:15:02 -0400
To: Lancair Mailing List <lml@lancaironline.net>
I'm with George.
Besides, BOSE is a LOBO sponsor...

On Oct 28, 2013, at 1:58 PM, George Wehrung wrote:

I don’t like the fit of the zulu compared to bose for my pointy head.  I wear them some days for seven hours at a stretch for 6 days a week deployed three months at a time. 



     
On Oct 28, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Mike <legacyl2k@gmail.com> wrote:

Or Zulu 2's from LightSpeed...  You can BlueTooth music as well as phone with the Zulu's.  You can only BlueTooth the phone to the A20's, plus the Zulu's sound much better....

I demoed the new Zulu PFX that are coming out soon, didn't think much of them for many reasons...  Zulu 2's if you go this way, much nicer then the Bose A20

Mike Larkin

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 28, 2013, at 4:32 PM, George Wehrung <gw5@me.com> wrote:

I found yesterday that with my wife using the Pilot BluLink (blue tooth for her iPhone to Bose X headset) that the ICS and comms sounded horrible.  

Once she turned it off, problems went away.  Just a datapoint.  Don’t know if anyone else has had this as well.  I may have to upgrade her to the A20.




On Oct 28, 2013, at 7:44 AM, Gordon Porter <ghp@trustedwealthadvisors.com> wrote:

Thanks, Pete.
 
This weekend I found that my headset jacks, that I moved to the panel at the last minute, were not insulated.  I was hopeful I had found the issue.  Not.  Next is the audio jack in and other misc. items that contact the panel, and running a dedicated ground line to my antenna ground plane.  A local A&P suggested that I ground the panel itself as well.  Frustrating.
 
I was able to isolate the squelch noise to the "EFIS-trim:" circuit while idling today.  Not sure what that means, but will reach out to Aerotronics, who did my panel, this week.
 
Will keep the group posted..
 
Gordon
 
 
 
Gordon H. Porter
Managing Partner
Trusted Wealth Advisors, LLP
Registered Principal, Cambridge Investment Research, Inc.
 
800-290-2632  717-757-4908  fax 717-843-0180
 
 

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From: pete@leapfrogventures.com [mailto:pete@leapfrogventures.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 8:54 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net; ghp@trustedwealthadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [LML] Noisy COM on low end freqs only....?
 
I had similar problems with my ES comm.  In my case I found two causes.  The first was the aux audio input jack for my comm panel.  It was mounted on the aluminum dash, which created a ground loop as the barrel of the connector was then connected by both a wire and the panel.  Disconnecting the jack eliminated the hum.  Note that the hum was there even when the aux jack was not enabled – just its presence created a ground loop.
 
The second issue was noise emanating from my LED position lights.  This noise only affected the lower comm frequencies, while the aux jack loop created a buzz all of the time.  You can source these kinds of problems by opening the fuses one by one until the problem goes away. 
 
Pete
 
From: YahooMail [mailto:arrow54t@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 6:06 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: Re: [LML] Noisy COM on low end freqs only....?
 
Gordon,
I had very similar experience with my ES.  I tried the alternator filter capacitor idea with no luck too.  I could eliminate the noise by turning off the alternator field.  Turned out to be a ground loop due to the aluminum headphone mounting jack plates for the rear seat passengers.  I installed plastic washers with a flange so that the jack bodies wouldn't touch the metal plate.  Aircraft Spruce sells them just for this purpose.  Originally I had plastic washers that didn't have the flange that keeps the jacks in the center of the hole.  No more whining in my plane except from some passengers when there is turbulence!
 
Hope this helps,
Mike Salzman
2005 LNCE
Fairfield, CA

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On Oct 21, 2013, at 7:37, "Gordon Porter" <ghp@trustedwealthadvisors.com> wrote:

Well, I have been flying my Lancair  ES for 90 hours and loving it.  Knocking off the last of the minor squawks.  One that has me perplexed is a very staticy COM background noise:
 

Get it on both radios - a G530 and an SL30, on different antennae

SL 30 is on an exterior Comant 121; G530 is on a bonded in AAE in vertical

My transmissions are heard fine

I actually here incoming transmissions  when it is staticy fairly well, most of the time

The WEIRD part is it is 100% reproducible on 118.xx, 119.xx and 120.xx freqs only.  Rest of freq spectrum is crystal clear with good range
 
I thought I had it narrowed down to the Primary ALT since at 8-900 RPM I could switch the static off and on with the field switch.  So, I put one of those big capacitors (from B&C) on the PRIM ALT.  No improvement at higher RPMs.  Noise is the same with either alternator.
 
Any ideas?  The lower freqs only has to be a clue, I just don't know what it means!!
 
Thanks in advance for any ideas or direction.
 
Gordon
Lancair ES N144GP
IO-550
 
 
Gordon H. Porter
Managing Partner
Trusted Wealth Advisors, LLP
Registered Principal, Cambridge Investment Research, Inc.
 
800-290-2632  717-757-4908  fax 717-843-0180
 
 

Securities offered through Cambridge Investment Research, Inc.. Member FINRA/SIPC. Advisory Services offered through Cambridge Investment Research Advisors, Inc., a Registered Investment Advisor. Tax services are offered by Trusted Wealth Advisors LLP. Trusted Wealth Advisors and the Cambridge Investment Research companies are unaffiliated entities.

Trading instructions sent via e-mail may not be honored.  Please call our office, or Cambridge Investment Research trading desk at 800-756-8115
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