Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #66522
From: Wolfgang <Wolfgang@MiCom.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Flaps on take-off?
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 10:37:13 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
It is always a good idea to reduce your relative speed when close to hard objects like runways, trees, vehicles, etc. If something goes wrong the impact energy will be less and more survivable and lets one use shorter runways.
 
That's what flaps are for, to let you fly slower. Not using them at the appropriate time increases risk.
 
If using them distracts you from communicating, you need to remember "fly first, communicate second".
If using them "surprises" you with a predictable change in flight attitude, then you need more training.
 
20% is a a rough number for reduction of impact energy and runway used with flaps vs without flaps . . . I'll take it every time.
 
If it takes being "politically incorrect" to get the point across then . . .
 
Wolfgang
 
----- Original Message -----
To: lml
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 6:01 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: Flaps on take-off?




Posted for andres katz <yak55m@icloud.com>:

> I fly my IV-P out of Taos NM when density altitude some times is up to
>10,000 feet or more and temperatures during the day
> reach close to 95 degrees in the summer, 
> the airplane with the usual load will utilize the entire runway for take off
>with flaps off making it very dangerous, with flaps one uses less than 2/3 of
>the runway, my plane is a bit heavy but there is no argument in what the most
>effective way for take off is regardless of the personal habits of the pilot.
>That probably applies to all IV-P's 
>
> On Aug 12, 2013, at 01:46 PM, Art Jensen <flycassutts@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Maybe Wolfgang was short on political correctness, but the truth remains
>that if you cannot or do not fly the plane as it was meant to be flown then
>you should not be flying that plane.
> I believe everyone would agree that flaps do add a margin of safety and
>should be used for take-off and landing as per your POH and I believe every
>instructor giving training in a Lancair would agree. If an instructor reading
>this disagrees, please share why you disagree with me.
>
> Art
>
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
>
>From: steve <n5276j@aol.com>; To: <lml@lancaironline.net>; Subject: [LML] Re:
>To Marv Sent: Mon, Aug 12, 2013 5:39:28 PM
> I second your post. I am surprised by the comment.
>  
> steve alderman   N25SA  360
>  
> .
> -----Original Message-----
>From: Claudette Colwell <colwell.ch@gmail.com>
> To: lml <lml@lancaironline.net>
> Sent: Mon, Aug 12, 2013 5:43 am
> Subject: [LML] To Marv
>
> It is very regretful the comment from Wolfgang apparently directed to Matt
>appeared on the LML.  This has always been a constructive exchange of
>information and ideas.  That type of personal comment is not in keeping with
>the spirit of cooperative sharing of information.
>  
> Claudette
>  
>  

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