Posted for "Douglas Brunner" <douglasbrunner@earthlink.net>:

> The only drawback that I can see to not using flaps (on a runway that is
> long enough) is the extra wear and tear on tires.  Otherwise, it would seem
> to be a pretty benign thing to do.  And Matt is correct that when you "dump"
> the flaps there can be a pitch change and/or decrease in climb rate.
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> I thought the comment was unduly harsh and critical, although Matt did not
> seem to have had his "spirit broken" based on his response.
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> There are dumb things that will get you killed - and I think it is our duty
> to point those out.  
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> Then there are differences in our normal operating procedures that don't
> make that much difference - when applied intelligently.  For example:
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> 1)      I know a highly skilled pilot who does not like to use full flaps on
> landing.  I use full flaps and I believe the handbook recommends that.
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> 2)      When I trained in the Legacy, there was no recommendation for low
> boost on takeoff.  I believe that Lancair/HPAT has changed its
> recommendations on that.
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> 3)      I have my speed brakes on my stick.  I know a very experienced
> Lancair pilot who felt it was important to put it on his panel and cage it.
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> 4)      Bob Jeffrey teaches leaving the flaps down until you have reached
> 1,000 ft.  Other experienced instructors don't.
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> 5)      I know several pilots that pull their mixture to idle cut off after
> landing to increase engine braking.
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> 6)      Etc.
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> Getting on our "high horse" about small things it not that productive.
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> D. Brunner
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>From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Art
> Jensen
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 4:47 PM
> To: lml@lancaironline.net
> Subject: [LML] Re: To Marv
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> Maybe Wolfgang was short on political correctness, but the truth remains
> that if you cannot or do not fly the plane as it was meant to be flown then
> you should not be flying that plane.
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> I believe everyone would agree that flaps do add a margin of safety and
> should be used for take-off and landing as per your POH and I believe every
> instructor giving training in a Lancair would agree. If an instructor
> reading this disagrees, please share why you disagree with me.
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> Art
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>From: steve <n5276j@aol.com>;
> To: <lml@lancaironline.net>;
> Subject: [LML] Re: To Marv
> Sent: Mon, Aug 12, 2013 5:39:28 PM
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> I second your post. I am surprised by the comment.
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> steve alderman   N25SA  360
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> -----Original Message-----
>From: Claudette Colwell <colwell.ch@gmail.com>
> To: lml <lml@lancaironline.net>
> Sent: Mon, Aug 12, 2013 5:43 am
> Subject: [LML] To Marv
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> It is very regretful the comment from Wolfgang apparently directed to Matt
> appeared on the LML.  This has always been a constructive exchange of
> information and ideas.  That type of personal comment is not in keeping with
> the spirit of cooperative sharing of information.
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> Claudette
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