X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nskntmtas01p.mx.bigpond.com ([61.9.168.137] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTP id 6413861 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 06:25:40 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=61.9.168.137; envelope-from=frederickmoreno@bigpond.com Received: from nskntcmgw05p ([61.9.169.165]) by nskntmtas01p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20130812102503.DHVI21423.nskntmtas01p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntcmgw05p> for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 10:25:03 +0000 Received: from Razzle ([1.122.172.78]) by nskntcmgw05p with BigPond Outbound id BmR11m00p1hqmBD01mR2xS; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 10:25:02 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=G7ae4qY5 c=1 sm=1 a=Yw52ToOdFr1VE5+1veiJuw==:17 a=Klydr1gG2boA:10 a=JDadKst33uMA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=1IlZJK9HAAAA:8 a=JFsQiW5krlwA:10 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=exCvqmWTKNSHgxMH49YA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=x9hhT4eyYIWdWPQO:21 a=P-xwcwdtiEOSH0e-:21 a=LJNHRzvFAAAA:8 a=Ljxm8QkiFQCPUJDGO4gA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=3q8PDF_K8bIA:10 a=4KtPtThoKGrqXLDG:21 a=pPDOFVz44KwdFe8Q:21 a=LiHss4EglQoPGTOU:21 a=x0mLEhdcI6ghJkqIEpcA:9 a=HXjIzolwW10A:10 a=dvIeMUh3dxkolpdY:18 a=Yw52ToOdFr1VE5+1veiJuw==:117 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <5208B82E.00006A.05004@RAZZLE> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:25:50 +0800 Content-Type: Multipart/related; charset="us-ascii"; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_2BYE5J766RO000000000" X-Mailer: IncrediMail (6395274) From: "Frederick Moreno" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-Priority: 3 To: "Lancair Mail (lml@lancaironline.net)" Subject: Fw: RE: [LML] Re: Flaps on take-off? --------------Boundary-00=_2BYE5J766RO000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_2BYE0TB66RO000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_2BYE0TB66RO000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On my non-P non-turbo Lancair IV, empty weight 1984 pounds, short wings w= ith no winglets, nearly full fuel, 400 pounds of pork in the front seats, gathering data and calibrating the AOA, we established Vs =3D 77 knots an= d Vso =3D 69 knots. Using AOA, final approach speeds range from 95 nearly empt= y to 110 when stuffed full of fuel, pork, and baggage. =0D =0D Fred Moreno=0D =0D =0D =0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: Robert R Pastusek=0D Date: 12/08/2013 12:01:43 PM=0D To: Lancair Mailing List=0D Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Flaps on take-off?=0D =0D That is very close to the speeds for N-437RP (my Lancair IV-P), but not exactly. A good starting point, but please recall that these airplanes ar= e all hand-built and no two are alike. I would strongly suggest getting one= of the experienced test pilots within our community to test fly and determin= e the stall speeds for your individual airplane. =0D =0D Bob P=0D =0D From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of F. Barry Knotts=0D =0D =0D L-IV-P=0D Vs =3D 80 KIAS, Vso =3D 71 KIAS. (Measured by professional test pilot!= ) No data on partial flaps.=0D =0D Barry Knotts=0D =0D On 8/10/2013 12:02 AM, Paul Miller wrote:=0D Does anyone have the stall speeds for IV: flaps up versus takeoff flaps? = =0D =0D =20 --------------Boundary-00=_2BYE0TB66RO000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On my non-P non-turbo Lancair IV, empty weight 1984 pounds, short wi= ngs with no winglets, nearly full fuel, 400 pounds of pork in the front s= eats, gathering data and calibrating the AOA, we established Vs =3D = 77 knots and Vso =3D 69 knots. Using AOA, final approach speeds ran= ge from 95 nearly empty to 110 when stuffed full of fuel, pork,= and baggage.

Fred Moreno

-= ------Original Message-------

From: Robert R Pastusek

Date: 12/08/2013 1= 2:01:43 PM

To: Lancair Mailing List

Subject: RE: [LML]= Re: Flaps on take-off?

That is very close to the speeds for N-437RP (my Lancair IV-P), but not = exactly. A good starting point, but please recall that these airplanes ar= e all hand-built and no two are alike. I would strongly suggest getting o= ne of the experienced test pilots within our community to test fly and de= termine the stall speeds for your individual airplane. =

Bob P

From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Beha= lf Of F. Barry Knotts
=

L-IV-P
Vs =3D 80 KIAS, Vso =3D 71 KIAS. (Measured = by professional test pilot!) No data on partial flaps.

Barry= Knotts

On 8/10/2013 12:02 AM, Paul Miller wrote:

Does anyone have the stall speeds for IV: flaps up versus takeoff = flaps?

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