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Subject: Re: [LML] ADS-B Tracking of Plane & Pilot: Precursor to User Fees?
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On 7/22/2013 12:43 PM, jeffrey liegner wrote:
> With ADS-B out, they will track your N number everywhere using your transponder output.  That means not only tracking you (personally, wherever you are), but making it much easier to charge each N number according to the duration and time flying over the USA and "using" the national airspace asset.

But the above they could have done with Mode S for many years, too...


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> I was recently told that controllers using a pilots ADS-B output will respond to an initial ATC call by using the pilots name (not N number).  This level of identification and personal recognition is a new frontier.
This would be problematic at best...consider that most people are 
listening for their N-Number not name, and hundreds of planes are flown 
every day by people who are not the registered owner.....airlines, 
leasebacks, commercial operations..I highly doubt they'll be calling a 
pilot by name unless he's also on the flight plan and they have an 
emergency.  Besides that, with the phonetic alphabet, everyone *tries* 
to speak the call signs properly....can you imagine trying to pronounce 
some people's names and make them understandable?   We'd maybe all start 
having to be .. Sum Tin Wong and We Tu Lo. :)

What are pilots thinking in regards to having their movements tracked?  In your car, unless you voluntarily have an EasyPass transponder, your Constitutional rights to free travel are (for the most part) unencumbered and unmonitored by the government.

Jeff L


I think the tracking of movements is already so far over the edge that it's just
commonplace.  These days the feds know where your car is if you have OnStar,
they know the GPS location of ALL people who have cellphones in the country,
(which is what the NSA cellphone data is really all about), they know where
everyone is by IP address, so adding to it your position with ADS-B and Mode S
just another method they have.  1984, Man...

Tim