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From: jeffrey liegner <liegner@ptd.net>
Subject: ADS-B Tracking of Plane & Pilot: Precursor to User Fees?
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With ADS-B out, they will track your N number everywhere using your transponder output.  That means not only tracking you (personally, wherever you are), but making it much easier to charge each N number according to the duration and time flying over the USA and "using" the national airspace asset.

I was recently told that controllers using a pilots ADS-B output will respond to an initial ATC call by using the pilots name (not N number).  This level of identification and personal recognition is a new frontier.

What are pilots thinking in regards to having their movements tracked?  In your car, unless you voluntarily have an EasyPass transponder, your Constitutional rights to free travel are (for the most part) unencumbered and unmonitored by the government.  

Jeff L


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Miller <pjdmiller@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Certificate Expiration Dates????
Date: July 21, 2013 9:12:24 PM EDT
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I think the intent is far more reaching than to purge non-flying aircraft from the database.  It is likely to get a grip on aircraft registered to foreign entities through US trusts and many of these aircraft operate overseas and are controlled by non-US persons.   While these are typically allowed and approved in the past by the FAA, the latest news releases indicate the IG auditor is criticizing the FAA for not having enough data and control on who controls these trusts.  The Trusts are now being withheld as I read.  With each country going after revenue grabs for N-registered aircraft abroad, I suspect a revenue grab domestically for "foreigners" using the label of "N" will appear some day and it will be more than $5.

Anytime someone creates a database of owners of objects, the government finds a way to collect revenue on those assets.  Canada (my country) does that now with the aircraft registry on each flight and its not hard to imagine how it might play out when the database is complete with newly confirmed mailing addresses of all flying N-registered aircraft.   I think it is inevitable that owners of aircraft are going to be asked to pay to fly just as we are in Canada and owners are in Europe.   But, you have to have a database of verified billing addresses before you can send out invoices.