X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 21:12:24 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-gh0-f169.google.com ([209.85.160.169] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTPS id 6381109 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 15:24:07 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.160.169; envelope-from=pjdmiller@gmail.com Received: by mail-gh0-f169.google.com with SMTP id r1so1667392ghr.0 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 12:23:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.236.154.167 with SMTP id h27mr11042004yhk.246.1374348212664; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 12:23:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.1.137] ([68.202.59.203]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f67sm29379614yhh.9.2013.07.20.12.23.31 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 20 Jul 2013 12:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Certificate Expiration Dates???? From: Paul Miller In-Reply-To: X-Original-Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 15:23:29 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Message-Id: <222AAB84-5C45-41D8-A520-A894DD673393@gmail.com> References: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) I think the intent is far more reaching than to purge non-flying = aircraft from the database. It is likely to get a grip on aircraft = registered to foreign entities through US trusts and many of these = aircraft operate overseas and are controlled by non-US persons. While = these are typically allowed and approved in the past by the FAA, the = latest news releases indicate the IG auditor is criticizing the FAA for = not having enough data and control on who controls these trusts. The = Trusts are now being withheld as I read. With each country going after = revenue grabs for N-registered aircraft abroad, I suspect a revenue grab = domestically for "foreigners" using the label of "N" will appear some = day and it will be more than $5. Anytime someone creates a database of owners of objects, the government = finds a way to collect revenue on those assets. Canada (my country) = does that now with the aircraft registry on each flight and its not hard = to imagine how it might play out when the database is complete with = newly confirmed mailing addresses of all flying N-registered aircraft. = I think it is inevitable that owners of aircraft are going to be asked = to pay to fly just as we are in Canada and owners are in Europe. But, = you have to have a database of verified billing addresses before you can = send out invoices. On 2013-07-20, at 2:50 PM, Todd Long wrote: > This is something fairly new. The FAA claims it is a way to get = aircraft that are no longer flying off of their registry. I can't = imagine it's worth the five dollars they collect every few years. Three = if I remember correct. Six months prior to your registration expiring = you should get some mail from the FAA letting you know. >=20 > Typing and grammar errors courtesy of Siri and the iPhone. >=20 > On Jul 20, 2013, at 11:40, Charles Brown wrote: >=20 >> I just noticed that all the aircraft registrations in the FAA = database have certificate expiration dates, mine is in 2014. I thought = registrations were issued without expiration? Is this a recent change? = Do we have to do something to renew? >>=20 >> Charley >> N550KC >> -- >> For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html