X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 12:41:00 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm4-vm3.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([216.109.114.114] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTPS id 6380452 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 23:09:39 -0400 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.109.114.114; envelope-from=browncc1@verizon.net Received: from [66.196.81.162] by nm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jul 2013 03:09:00 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.47] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jul 2013 03:09:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp104.vzn.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jul 2013 03:09:00 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 798497.45245.bm@smtp104.vzn.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: KRL3JG4VM1mfGzKeCYFlrH3.Ws3KoaBUkVWb3WxqkgF10h7 QqgpCsjDlrG3E0B9LeXgUK9wc4B04OiFqcN5MFr3oViE0GBu0Rj7ktMF22Dc o5dslHV1SMw09lm.xvY1J_KBZG87srpQ0Rn0GzqLZBVKXpOCP6ufOuAF3tOt fHJ6QS0Oz9M2Fqsv6Tnr42bLZX2poobnNp5F3Z_1PwYbQmpCbsRG_7.SQBdt 7f_Yg9vAw3KsPOkmx3TFzqed5CxSZb6JTqimvQ6Km72rpOC6ecKhb77.hFge BYsDLbPVg5tvl_qH_vo.UyJ_FADSZCeQKqDQiDuybCv4.fe3AaagwcmInT0i y3sZ698RhfvyrqSoZwmTiq3UK46_mC8DRM.QPUgoHNedoS76daS8gTPpUpO_ zayILVkbmibBpoQx9VuAYrcL7matRHJ64PmpTzUbSCMxbxyaHKKyy4DhNh7V YQjlIb0mvsrBn3MCx5nbngj9ns_KuwAIsWlOo4dF8YZixHsww5GMX8fClxuX yWxnzNsX6fCPfAKd5fCCtCziCqFA- X-Yahoo-SMTP: F49l9g6swBC0R9n8vJIbm7Tf3P8Xlmia8rHIwTlO__Ml X-Rocket-Received: from chass-imac-2.home (browncc1@72.64.105.53 with plain) by smtp104.vzn.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2013 20:09:00 -0700 PDT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Fuel vol correction From: Charles Brown In-Reply-To: X-Original-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 22:08:59 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Message-Id: <5DF17D4F-0F8A-4512-BEFE-B4D2F6F26682@verizon.net> References: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) OK, thanks Bill B, John B, and Bob P for inputs. Bill's info below is = interesting in that it confirms that 37 may be a good number if things = are working right. I did not sump the tank prior to filling, because I = assumed I'd put in 37 gallons -- but I may try that next time. However, = it won't prove much, will it? There *should* be *some* fuel left at the = sumps, regardless; that's where the unusable fuel hangs out, right? I am the builder, I have photos proving (as I checked at the time) all = the little half-circle cutouts in the spar were present and not blocked = by ProSeal; the geometry of the rib caps makes it extremely unlikely = that Hysol could have blocked the cutouts at wing closing and at any = rate, I measured the 37gal volume long after the wings were closed. I = can still hear the gate valves slapping whenever I rock the airplane on = the ground with partial fuel, so they're working; and there's no venting = issue. I slipped the plane in flight to get the last of the fuel, but = maybe not long enough? Once the engine sputters, it could take many = seconds to re-establish flow? Hmmmm..... Of course it's possible that some blockage has occurred, I can check = that out with a borescope, sounds like fun. Thanks guys, I'll let you = know if I figure it out. Good ideas in Bob's article. CB On Jul 19, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Bill Bradburry wrote: Charley, Did you sump the tank prior to refilling it to ensure that it was truly empty? You may be looking at 3 gallons un-usable. The Legacy wings = have little dihedral and there is a lot of sloshing. You may have unported = the fuel outlet finger strainer and made you think the tank was empty. When I calibrated the fuel gage on my Legacy with speed brake wells, = both tanks were 36 gallons filled to the bottom of the fuel inlet. 37 = gallons makes sense if you don't have the speed brake wells. B2 -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Charles Brown Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 7:22 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Fuel vol correction I may have provided some bad info in the past. I stated that the fuel = vol in my wing tanks was 37 gal per side; attributing the extra to the = complete absence of speed brake provisions. However, I just got around to = exhausting a fuel tank in flight, and refilled it with 34 gallons. Of the many possible variables, the one that seems most dubious is the accuracy of = the 1/2 gallon measuring cup that was the basis for the original = calibration. I"m still sorting through this one. Charley Brown Legacy 275 hr -- For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html -- For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html