X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 13:33:30 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from p3plex2out02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net ([184.168.131.14] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTP id 6374074 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 13:27:54 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=184.168.131.14; envelope-from=pete@leapfrogventures.com Received: from P3PW5EX1HT001.EX1.SECURESERVER.NET ([72.167.180.19]) by p3plex2out02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with secureserver.net id 0hTK1m0080RWb6o01hTKw6; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:27:19 -0700 Received: from P3PW5EX1MB14.EX1.SECURESERVER.NET ([10.6.135.87]) by P3PW5EX1HT001.EX1.SECURESERVER.NET ([72.167.180.19]) with mapi; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:27:18 -0700 From: "pete@leapfrogventures.com" X-Original-To: "lml@lancaironline.net" X-Original-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:27:41 -0700 Subject: RE: AFS Pilot Thread-Topic: AFS Pilot Thread-Index: Ac6Bf/W4xRS5stwGR42VrOXKLDaAkgAAEeHA X-Original-Message-ID: <2A14E6258A8534418F5498D73CCA51EF224DD99817@P3PW5EX1MB14.EX1.SECURESERVER.NET> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_2A14E6258A8534418F5498D73CCA51EF224DD99817P3PW5EX1MB14E_" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_000_2A14E6258A8534418F5498D73CCA51EF224DD99817P3PW5EX1MB14E_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One more comment. I found that if the aileron trim were off even a small a= mount I would get a wing oscillation with the AP. Since the TT AP does not= control the roll trim (like it does the elevator and yaw damper trim) it j= ust seems to hunt around a mis-trimmed aileron. Pete From: pete@leapfrogventures.com Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 10:23 AM To: 'lml@lancaironline.net' Subject: RE: AFS Pilot I also replaced my standard roll servo with the hi torque model because it = would slip on steep turns (I have a Sorcerer and an ES-P). The hi torque h= as worked great since the swap. No need to upgrade the elevator servo, as = the standard one has had no issues. Do you have a yaw damper? I found that the yaw damper can cause rapid late= ral hunting of the roll servo if it is not set right or doesn't have the la= test SW from TT. When you get the new hi T roll servo, you will find it requires a much high= er roll gain. I find 20 a good setting, although I still get some lazy min= ute long light rolling of the wings. However, if I set it much higher, I g= et really jerky turns when using EXT HDG mode (from a G900). Pete From: Dico Reijers [mailto:dico@internetworks.ca] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 4:55 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: AFS Pilot Hi Todd, I have the TruTrak GX Pilot (the one that works with the Garmin G3X efis). = If its anything like mine, I have been having some issues with the AP not= being strong enough to take it out of even a medium turn. I have adjusted= both the LAT activity and the Lat Micro Activity. It was also "hunting" a= bit (but a fast hunt... like left,right,left,right.... not the lazy huntin= g type). Finally the other day the sheer pin broke. We are taking the servo out of the plane tomorrow hopefully. Sending it ba= ck to TruTrak with $750. They'll rebuild it into a high torque servo (16:1= rather than 4:1 ratio). Also, it has a slip clutch rather than the sheer = pin, which is a good thing. I'm hoping this will solve my issues. TruTrak= said that the high torque servo gives 20lbs more torque (if I'm repeating = that properly). My pitch servo is just the standard one and it seems to be operating fine. -dr -- Regards, Dico Reijers InternetWorks Ltd. 300 University Avenue Charlottetown PE, C1A 4M4 902-892-4671 (T) 888-368-9484 (F) www.internetworks.ca www.apartmentspei.com -- Regards, Dico Reijers InternetWorks Ltd. 300 University Avenue Charlottetown PE, C1A 4M4 902-892-4671 (T) 888-368-9484 (F) www.internetworks.ca www.apartmentspei.com --_000_2A14E6258A8534418F5498D73CCA51EF224DD99817P3PW5EX1MB14E_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

One more comment.  I found that= if the aileron trim were off even a small amount I would get a wing oscill= ation with the AP.  Since the TT AP does not control the roll trim (li= ke it does the elevator and yaw damper trim) it just seems to hunt around a= mis-trimmed aileron.

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Pete

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From: pete@leapfr= ogventures.com
Sent: Mon= day, July 15, 2013 10:23 AM
To: 'lml@lancaironline.net'
Subje= ct: RE: AFS Pilot

 

I also replaced my standar= d roll servo with the hi torque model because it would slip on steep turns = (I have a Sorcerer and an ES-P).  The hi torque has worked great since= the swap.  No need to upgrade the elevator servo, as the standard one= has had no issues.

 

Do you have a yaw damper?  I found that the yaw damper can c= ause rapid lateral hunting of the roll servo if it is not set right or does= n’t have the latest SW from TT.

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When you get the new hi T roll servo, you will= find it requires a much higher roll gain.  I find 20 a good setting, = although I still get some lazy minute long light rolling of the wings. = ; However, if I set it much higher, I get really jerky turns when using EXT= HDG mode (from a G900).

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Pete

 

Fr= om: Dico Reijers [mailto:dico@intern= etworks.ca]
Sent: Monday= , July 15, 2013 4:55 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: AFS Pilot

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Hi Todd,

I have the TruTrak GX Pilot (t= he one that works with the Garmin G3X efis).   If its anything li= ke mine, I have been having some issues with the AP not being strong enough= to take it out of even a medium turn.  I have adjusted both the LAT a= ctivity and the Lat Micro Activity.  It was also "hunting" a= bit (but a fast hunt... like left,right,left,right.... not the lazy huntin= g type).  Finally the other day the sheer pin broke.

We are tak= ing the servo out of the plane tomorrow hopefully.  Sending it back to= TruTrak with $750.  They'll rebuild it into a high torque servo (16:1= rather than 4:1 ratio).  Also, it has a slip clutch rather than the s= heer pin, which is a good thing.  I'm hoping this will solve my issues= .  TruTrak said that the high torque servo gives 20lbs more torque (if= I'm repeating that properly).

My pitch servo is just the standard o= ne and it seems to be operating fine.

-dr


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Regards,

Dico Reijers

InternetWorks Ltd.
300 Unive= rsity Avenue
Charlottetown
PE, C1A 4M4

902-892-4671 (T)
888-368-9484 (F)

www.internetworks.ca
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Regards,

Dico Reijers

InternetWorks Ltd.
300 Universit= y Avenue
Charlottetown
PE, C1A 4M4

902-892-4671 (T)
888-368= -9484 (F)

www.internetworks.= ca
www.apartmentspei.com

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