X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 08:32:50 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm8-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.91.23] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTPS id 6345947 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 07:19:24 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.138.91.23; envelope-from=casey.gary@yahoo.com Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jun 2013 11:18:49 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.250] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jun 2013 11:18:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1042.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jun 2013 11:18:49 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 258693.85587.bm@omp1042.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 98609 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Jun 2013 11:18:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=E733T3Uek95Q213dLDuIjkJsfCj0cQmgDtWO0aOGBURlakMA3tG/bs5LvzGm8ncKtkRtwGlk3K6MJSRBnoFwWPWegtUs1q1C3w7pJet6h2skfWphyr4T4bZGQ0W7Bz4dNg28wvpBKjm+HWSbVoP5aJhD/GvVuNqFQ06qbVCtbHA=; X-YMail-OSG: FBE_IZkVM1lp6K1kzl0UaXnXDpCrQuMaKMCvnZ_KtL6bAhE tcBGJ1UFXHJ1f7Eo- Received: from [97.92.63.83] by web120102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 04:18:48 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,SSBsaWtlIHRoZWlyIGNvbmNlcHQsIGJ1dCB0aGVyZSBhbHdheXMgc2VlbXMgdG8gYmUgYSBwcm9taXNpbmcgbmV3IGVuZ2luZSB0aGF0IGlzICIxLTIgeWVhcnMgYXdheSIuIMKgSG9wZWZ1bGx5IHRoaXMgb25lIHdpbGwgbWFrZSBpdCwgYnV0IHRoZSBvZGRzIGFyZSBhZ2FpbnN0IGl0LiDCoEFuZCBhIG5vdGUgb2YgY2F1dGlvbjogwqBIb3JzZXBvd2VyIGlzIGhvcnNlcG93ZXIgYW5kIHRoYXQncyB3aGF0IGl0IHRha2VzLiDCoE1vcmUgInRvcnF1ZSIgYXZhaWxhYmxlPyDCoEhvcnNlcG93ZXIgaXMgdG9ycXUBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.148.554 References: X-Original-Message-ID: <1372072728.97909.YahooMailNeo@web120102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 04:18:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Casey Reply-To: Gary Casey Subject: Re: Power for ES X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-1658718958-702842823-1372072728=:97909" ---1658718958-702842823-1372072728=:97909 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I like their concept, but there always seems to be a promising new engine t= hat is "1-2 years away". =A0Hopefully this one will make it, but the odds a= re against it. =A0And a note of caution: =A0Horsepower is horsepower and th= at's what it takes. =A0More "torque" available? =A0Horsepower is torque tim= es rpm and hp is what gets the plane off the ground. =A0I'm afraid with onl= y 200 hp you will be disappointed, as the ES is a fairly heavy plane. =A0I = think all the original 210-hp ES's have been converted to 300 hp engines fo= r that reason.=0A=0AGary=0A=0AJust =3D=0Astarting on our ES fastbuild, so 2= or 3 years away from engine =3D=0Adecision. Love the concept of the = Deltahawk 200 hp. They say =3D=0Athey are 1-2 years away from cert. e= ngines, experimental sooner. =3D=0A200 hp should be plenty for takeof= f, since much more torque available, =3D=0Aand the 200 is there all the way= up to flight levels. Fuel savings =3D=0Ain 2000 hours will pay for t= he engine, plus no worries about 100 =3D=0ALL. Anyone else looking at= this engine? Ed =3D=0AGray=0A ---1658718958-702842823-1372072728=:97909 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I like their c= oncept, but there always seems to be a promising new engine that is "1-2 ye= ars away". Hopefully this one will make it, but the odds are against = it. And a note of caution: Horsepower is horsepower and that's = what it takes. More "torque" available? Horsepower is torque ti= mes rpm and hp is what gets the plane off the ground. I'm afraid with= only 200 hp you will be disappointed, as the ES is a fairly heavy plane. &= nbsp;I think all the original 210-hp ES's have been converted to 300 hp eng= ines for that reason.

Gary

=

= starting on our= ES fastbuild, so 2 or 3 years away from engine =3D
decision.  Love the concept of the Deltahawk 200 hp.&= nbsp; They say =3Dthey are= 1-2 years away from cert. engines, experimental sooner.  =3D
200 hp should be plenty for tak= eoff, since much more torque available, =3D
and= the 200 is there all the way up to flight levels.  Fuel savings = =3D
<= span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-famil= y: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">in 2000 hours will pay = for the engine, plus no worries about 100 =3D
LL.  Anyone else looking at this engine?&nb= sp; Ed =3D
<= /span>Gray

---1658718958-702842823-1372072728=:97909--