X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2013 14:08:33 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm20-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.91.150] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTPS id 6302906 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 10:21:02 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.138.91.150; envelope-from=n20087@yahoo.com Received: from [98.138.90.56] by nm20.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2013 14:20:26 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.130] by tm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2013 14:20:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp217.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2013 14:20:26 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 286921.33977.bm@smtp217.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: mpmBzQoVM1njQK.OxlTFKr_oLJGfCUqT6DPzgQwY6Pyd4xC 6cpm_w3n1BzCJATDHoswYX5uH.HcmcdvcLVUAckLurDe_9QeK823BfhIdhCk wxU7EAdjNb04CBSkupQodDvOrGZJgmre6yPCbBxqHysevPZ0IG3vrpdnWt7p 9GdK76iJGWTsriObYkx62THVTDBv1.6fm63ksz1hCr.YhhrOYQbVcF3EffbV Ap8rP.GUxD6RwxMB7n0fIAfI8dKRlxt0jzciQU6Rqgdcdixhji1UefywaaSE DQ3KRG7MtrP87cLNKqFCXII2W_MWn5At1onfF9q37hp1CtvfY3M9YtYFMhSl l8ZnjFifuSuvcOX2HEFwL5XrEyUygkeZ3J4mG.KByRyIIFr31E1GP6QGeGpQ jFh.BgLp7uyYa1ARtCN.ZASFj9tGFu_SlQ8rra2HGCdy1DHViFIPDwUEPL7D KIVBDCTLm4VcOr.gvhSYiFPcvYPb4qCnmt1UniHNMQfZRDWybxRd5 X-Yahoo-SMTP: NQQt3c2swBAKSrExoA1eZuT7_w-- X-Rocket-Received: from [192.168.1.107] (n20087@24.254.187.60 with ) by smtp217.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 Jun 2013 14:20:26 +0000 UTC Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Trip to the Florida keys References: From: Tom Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-B2999743-7B18-4609-AC8A-7A4B1D7F75FE X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10A8426) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Message-Id: <6923D762-AE0E-4245-AA39-0F4F94021348@yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 10:20:26 -0400 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) --Apple-Mail-B2999743-7B18-4609-AC8A-7A4B1D7F75FE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peter Thanks so much for taking the time to put this together and give me the bene= fit of your experience. I plan the same route HST onwards. And clearly got= to be on the ground before the afternoon storms Thanks Tom Sent from my iPad On Jun 2, 2013, at 2:32 AM, PETER WILLIAMS wr= ote: > Tom=20 >=20 > i regularly fly to Key West; four trips in the last eight months. Since i h= ave the 4P i am making the trip more often.=20 >=20 > now that i fly a single i go down the west coast of Florida. >=20 > my route from Teterboro is: >=20 > TEB PXT SSI HST MNATE KEYW >=20 > this keeps me over land or within gliding distance of land. (and clear of t= he seat of government) >=20 > SUMMER TIME >=20 > Ideally you want to be on the ground for the day by 2:00PM, even better 1:= 00PM. there will be buildups almost every afternoon. > we had one trip where we started late and there was a storm system that co= vered the whole width of Florida. We would have had to gone to Pensacola and= traveled out over the gulf to get around the system; and then there was no g= uarantee. we stopped short and finished the trip in the morning >=20 > the least expensive fuel i have found on the East Coast is at Flagler Airp= ort. >=20 > when we flew the Cessna 340 we would go down the West Coast and get fuel i= n Wachula. the stop saved $450.00 over going nonstop and paying KEYW fuel pr= ices. not a bad waste of an hour. >=20 > glad to give any more help if you need it. >=20 > as a footnote: with a slight tailwind i can make KTEB-KEYW in 4:10 with ov= er an hour reserve fuel >=20 > peter williams >=20 >=20 > > To: lml@lancaironline.net > > Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 08:20:01 -0400 > > From: n20087@yahoo.com > > Subject: [LML] Trip to the Florida keys > >=20 > > Folks > >=20 > > I am seeking advice from anyone with experience flying in the Florida ke= ys this time of year. I am planning a trip next week in my LNC2 to Key West f= rom my home base in Virginia. I have been studying the weather patterns over= the past few days in vicinity of the keys and the gulf. It seems it is alwa= ys raining or about to with CBs being almost a permanent fixture over the ca= useway along with lightening even in the early morning > >=20 > > The sort of thing I am interested in are > >=20 > > The extent of vfr traffic along the causeway > > Ifr routes & altitudes(I am departing Fort Lauderdale) > > Best time of day to avoid storms=20 > > Unusual local practice/knowledge > >=20 > > Any input would be appreciated=20 > >=20 > > Thanks > >=20 > > Tom > > -- > > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.h= tml --Apple-Mail-B2999743-7B18-4609-AC8A-7A4B1D7F75FE Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Peter

Thanks s= o much for taking the time to put this together and give me the benefit of y= our experience.  I plan the same route HST onwards.  And clearly g= ot to be on the ground before the afternoon storms

= Thanks

Tom

Sent from my iPad

O= n Jun 2, 2013, at 2:32 AM, PETER WILLIAMS <peterpawaviation@hotmail.com> wrote:

<= blockquote type=3D"cite">
Tom

i regularly fly to Key West; four trips= in the last eight months. Since i= have the 4P i am making the trip more often.

now that i fly a singl= e i go down the west coast of Florida.

my route from Teterboro is:

        =     TEB PXT SSI HST MNATE KEYW

this keeps me over land or within gliding distance= of land. (and clear of the seat o= f government)

SUMME= R TIME

Ideally you w= ant to be on the ground for the day by 2:00PM, even better 1:00PM. there wil= l be buildups almost every afternoon.
we had one trip where we st= arted late and there was a storm system that covered the whole width of Flor= ida. We would have had to gone to Pensacola and traveled out over the gulf t= o get around the system; and then there was no guarantee. we stopped short a= nd finished the trip in the morning

the least expensive fuel i have found on the East Coast is a= t Flagler Airport.

<= font style=3D"" color=3D"#AC193D"> when we flew the Cessna 340 we would= go down the West Coast and get fuel in Wachula. the stop saved $450.00 over= going nonstop and paying KEYW fuel prices. not a bad waste of an hour.

glad to give any more h= elp if you need it.

as a fo= otnote: with a slight tailwind i can make KTEB-KEYW in 4:10 with over an hou= r reserve fuel

peter williams


> To:= lml@lancaironline.net
> D= ate: Thu, 30 May 2013 08:20:01 -0400
> From: n20087@yahoo.com
> Subject: [LML] Trip to the Florida k= eys
>
> Folks
>
> I am seeking advice from anyone w= ith experience flying in the Florida keys this time of year. I am planning a= trip next week in my LNC2 to Key West from my home base in Virginia. I hav= e been studying the weather patterns over the past few days in vicinity of t= he keys and the gulf. It seems it is always raining or about to with CBs be= ing almost a permanent fixture over the causeway along with lightening even i= n the early morning
>
> The sort of thing I am interested in ar= e
>
> The extent of vfr traffic along the causeway
> Ifr r= outes & altitudes(I am departing Fort Lauderdale)
> Best time of d= ay to avoid storms
> Unusual local practice/knowledge
>
>= ; Any input would be appreciated
>
> Thanks
>
> T= om
> --
> For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml= /List.html
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