X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2013 14:08:32 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm13.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.214] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTPS id 6303044 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 11:37:32 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.94.237.214; envelope-from=morss@pacbell.net Received: from [66.94.237.199] by nm13.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2013 15:36:57 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.172] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2013 15:36:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp106.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2013 15:36:56 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 995245.65599.bm@smtp106.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: mcPX.L4VM1nbCd5zsYnFhSKkVq.E.fvTTPDKcJmbXohO.bx _lJhQnf7_AU9fJ0PwETfL8iyeEdStJNxOvgNNjFV_QSDfX08kUoykw1i5DzJ ni6IoSh.3rXlu44zntsiPKqyWtKAld44HDCBaAB6NMuud2KqIrvtU0vw7oLD xw7sG9YEtn0WFK..yIo_Ydx3yaEl1I68MhpGnL5S0ytfkPKRMv1EpSXZiQ8H RC85KbaVmoZe0tDvdw7lzLrefsI4xkRbrUoQgaiydsv7cps2IncTlUs82KWx EAvTQw2Hv.X0onWJEP2TRxSH9f4t5bEeApDmHbQAq1iHGi47xb71b_x6SxNT POGRLP1Su9y6SwX7cyzVltXy1oVo._U3Bgs8iVrnO2wn1lmwP1l6hM5QSi1Y yBQVE_3XtFi4A5BcueSVFhbp6C.T8C39ZV1NBcq8JJIRjtGE0C0NSTeZiZNs hNYiYCY.qjfKmDlitG1i1TdGLyTPSz9TJIKOV4ZrJXyPJMzkIi4WV8I5LHzl 2Ecz7uuCV X-Yahoo-SMTP: BJ_SXe6swBCCX5h0Y84PaqSX4PxgAFGqD7R9loY4 X-Rocket-Received: from [192.168.1.66] (morss@108.91.173.63 with plain) by smtp106.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 Jun 2013 08:36:56 -0700 PDT From: dave morss Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: loss of power on takeoff X-Original-Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 08:36:53 -0700 X-Original-Message-Id: <5CE25717-024B-4751-A59D-765E1F49EEFA@pacbell.net> X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) in scotts reply he includes a graph of stall speeds vrs bank in a level = turn.remember this turn around maneuver is not level but descending so = the stall speed doesn't increase as much as the graph but if you get = ground rush and try to arrest the descent rate in the turn you will = probably stall more reason to practice at altitude and see if this is something you = might want to include in your bag of tricks dave=