X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 03 May 2013 09:30:01 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-la0-f52.google.com ([209.85.215.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.4) with ESMTPS id 6240885 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 02 May 2013 18:16:36 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.215.52; envelope-from=donkarich@gmail.com Received: by mail-la0-f52.google.com with SMTP id fm20so999236lab.39 for ; Thu, 02 May 2013 15:16:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.131.68 with SMTP id ok4mr2184873lbb.78.1367532960800; Thu, 02 May 2013 15:16:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.16.201 with HTTP; Thu, 2 May 2013 15:16:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.16.201 with HTTP; Thu, 2 May 2013 15:16:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: X-Original-Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 15:16:00 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Traveling with a dog From: Don Karich X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b34327058e77404dbc39484 --047d7b34327058e77404dbc39484 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I regularly fly with my 19 lbs dog and use the soft hutch which i can unzip the top enough to let his head stick out.if I'm alone i bring him up front cause he loves to look out. I caution you if he's a chewer watch out for wire bundles On May 2, 2013 2:21 PM, "Joseph Czabaranek" wrote: > I regularly fly with my 60lb Vizsla in the back of my 360. > > I got him a harness marketed for securing large dogs in the back of your > car. My harnesses attach to the overhead hardpoints, leaving the phenolic > hardpoints in the aft bulkhead available to attach the dog. A U-bolt > anchor on each side, 3/16" cord from REI between the two, and an 18" long > "shockle" made from 1" tubular webbing and bungee cord keeps him secure in > the back but free to stand up and turn around. I made the shockle, but I > know you can buy one. > > I use large mutt muffs on the Vizsla. I have medium muffs for my 65lb > greyhound (also fits in the 360, but being a greyhound is awkward as > hell). The dogs resisted them at first but now they'll keep them on for > the duration of a 6hr flight. Before Ive cleared the runway after > touchdown they strip em off. The muffs must be doing something positive > for them. > > Your dog wont need 02. If your only responsibility is sitting in the back > seat, you are fine below 25,000. At 16k cognitive ability might be > reduced and the pup might have an easier time sleeping but no harm done. > > Joe Cz > N424DH > On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Dan Ballin wrote: > >> This has come up on occasion, but would like to hear thoughts on >> taking a 40 lbs Aussie in a Legacy. >> >> Issues are: >> Crate- thinking about a soft crate. Hard to imagine getting something >> bigger in the back >> >> Hearing - Probably Mutt Muffs >> >> O2 - Going over the Rockies so probably 16K. I know I need O2 but any >> experience with dogs? Any vets out there? >> >> Dan Ballin >> LEG2 N386DM about 120 hrs >> > > --047d7b34327058e77404dbc39484 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I regularly fly with my 19 lbs dog and use the soft hutch which i can un= zip the top enough to let his head stick out.if I'm alone i bring him u= p front cause he loves to look out. I caution you if he's a chewer watc= h out for wire bundles

On May 2, 2013 2:21 PM, "Joseph Czabaranek&= quot; <joeczabaranek@gmail.co= m> wrote:
I regularly fly with my 60lb Vizsla in the back of my 360.=A0
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=A0I got him a harness marketed for securing large dogs in the back of= your car.=A0 My harnesses attach to the overhead hardpoints, leaving the p= henolic hardpoints in the aft bulkhead available to attach the dog.=A0 A U-= bolt anchor on each side, 3/16" cord from REI between the two, and an = 18" long "shockle" made from 1" tubular webbing and bun= gee cord keeps him secure in the back but free to stand up and turn around.= =A0 I made the shockle, but I know you can buy one.
=A0
I use large mutt muffs on the Vizsla.=A0 I have medium muffs for my 65= lb greyhound (also fits in the 360, but being a greyhound is awkward as hel= l).=A0 The dogs resisted them at first but now they'll keep them on for= the duration of a 6hr flight.=A0 Before Ive cleared the runway after touch= down they strip em off.=A0 The muffs must be doing something positive for t= hem.
=A0
Your dog wont need 02.=A0 If your only responsibility is sitting in th= e back seat,=A0you are fine below 25,000.=A0=A0 At 16k cognitive ability mi= ght be reduced and the pup=A0might have an easier time sleeping but no harm= done.
=A0
Joe Cz
N424DH=A0=A0
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Dan Ballin <dba= llin@gmail.com> wrote:
This has come up on occasion, but would like to hear thoughts on takin= g a 40 lbs Aussie in a Legacy.

Issues are:
Crate- thi= nking about a soft crate.=A0 Hard to imagine getting something bigger in th= e back

Hearing - Probably Mutt Muffs

O2=A0 - Going over the= Rockies so probably 16K. I know I need O2 but any experience with dogs?=A0= Any vets out there?

Dan Ballin
LEG2 N386DM=A0 about 120 hrs

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