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Hello Tim from another happy 235/320 builder/flyer.

Most of have had the opportunity to incorporate the 320 features in our aircraft.  Buying a 235 that was built per the original plans would probably be considerably 'different' than most 235/320s flying today.  

A friend had an early 235 and he built it with the 0-235, flap hinged on top skin etc so he limited his runway selection to only hard surface and long.  (He previously flew military F-101 etc and owned an early model Mooney with many hours experience)  

My advice would depend on your 'size', home runway, and type of flying planned.  After the 235/235 breaks ground it is very economical to fly and scoots along with the best of them...

0.02 cents,  Earl 

P.S.  Yes, they both look good!

From: Gary Edwards <gary21sn@hotmail.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Wed, January 9, 2013 6:32:45 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: Purchase Advice LNC2

Tim,
 
The 235 airframe gross weight was subsequently (1998) raised to 1,500 lbs. 
on take-off and 1,400 lbs. on landing.
 
...A friend of mine later bought that very same 235 
kit and still suffers........
 
What is your friend suffering from?
 
Along with the 235, I would surmise that there may not be 
very many 320's and 360's that are not exceeding the factory gross 
weight numbers.
 
The 320/360 is only 1" wider than the 235 airframe.  
A little taller yes, but if you are 6 foot whatever, then maybe you need a 
Legacy where there is even more headroom (and even more fuel 
capacity).   
 
Along with Bill's post, I think the 235 is getting a bad 
rap on the forum.
 
I'm with Randy; a 235 with Lyc. 320 is very 
fine.  It keeps up with the best of them and has relatively low fuel 
burn.  Take-off GPH is 11.2, cruise fuel burn is anywhere you want to make 
it from 6 to 9 GPH.
 
Gary Edwards
235/320
Medford, Oregon
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Tim Jørgensen 
To: lml@lancaironline.net 
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 8:01 
  AM
Subject: [LML] Re: Purchase Advice 
  LNC2

Purchase a 235 , ending at $50k 
  
Enjoy 160KTAS at 6gph.  

Now, 
  considering $70k on a good 320/360 
enjoy 190KTAS at 9gph, and a bit more room 
  and better climb.

My question is, to most of you is $20k worth the 
  room, performance, yet higher fuel flow?
 
Don´t forget:
Gross weight 235 = 1490 lbs.
Gross weight 320/360 MKI = 1640 lbs.
Fross weight 320/360 MKII = 1790 
lbs.
 
These numbers might be the most important 
  reason to find a good 320/360 MKII.
 
I considered a 235 vs. a 320/360 kit back in 
  2003. The price difference was some USD 5.000,-. 
Don Gordon talked me out of the 235 kit when I 
  visited his hangar, and I am glad he did (thank you Don !!!)
 
A friend of mine later bought that very same 235 
  kit and still suffers........
 
Anyway, I started building the 360MKII in 2003. 
  Back then, a good 9 years and 30-some pounds ago, I realized that the 1490 
  lbs. gross weight would not do. I now realize that I should have bought a 
  Legacy for the extra payload. - Or maybe an AN-2......
 
Anyway, the 320/360MKII is well worth the extra 
  20k in my opinion. In fact it is probably better than the Legacy because of 
  the Lycoming engine. It also looks better. Ooh, and don´t forget that you are 
  going to want a MKII model because of the bigger tail. The big tail is not nearly as dangerous as the small tail, 
  especially if you plan on doing spins. It also looks better.
 
Tim Jorgensen
360MKIIOBFB / 99%
 
 
 